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Who Has to Be Off the Board to Trade Back?
LinvilleGorge replied to 45catfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I'm definitely for listening to offers. Always a chance someone else values a remaining prospect a lot more than you do. Still a long time until draft day too. These big boards will change a lot post-Combine when the press will get a lot of scout access and get a better idea of how actual NFL talent evaluators view these guys. -
Who Has to Be Off the Board to Trade Back?
LinvilleGorge replied to 45catfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
CB with a package of plays on offense. That's the best bang for the buck. It's a lot harder to contribute situationally on defense and he's a better CB than WR as is. This is all for moot. He's gone before #8 unless he gets indicted for murder between now and draft day. -
Who Has to Be Off the Board to Trade Back?
LinvilleGorge replied to 45catfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Carter, Graham, and Hunter for me. Other than that I'm listening to offers. Hell, I'm listening to offers anyway. I'm not doing the Gettleman thing of submitting the pick immediately. If the phones are ringing there's no cost to listening. Maybe someone has an offer so good that I can't refuse. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah. It wasn't me but one of the other mods finally got sick of his poo and pulled the trigger. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
No it's not. LOL Jesus, I think we're dealing with a @CamWhoaaaCam alt. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Because you're hung up on what he did on the college field vs. looking at how that translates to the NFL. He basically just out-athleted the competition as a WR at the college level. Watch him play CB and watch him play WR. You can't possibly argue that he looked anywhere near as natural and instinctive as a WR as he did at CB. I'm not talking about once the ball is in the air. He has elite ball skills. I'm talking about getting off the line, running the route, setting up the CB. He basically just lined up and was faster, quicker, and more agile than the guy covering him. There's no nuance to his game as a WR because he's not a WR. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
You're not reading. This isn't about his college performance. It's about his NFL prospects. The Golden Calf of Bristol was one of the greatest college players of all time. That didn't mean he was a great NFL prospect. Hunter is an elite of the elite NFL CB prospect who was a great college WR too based primarily on absurd physical talent and just natural ball skills. Could he be an elite WR if he focused on that? Honestly, probably. But in terms of him being the best WR prospect in this draft? No. His skill set is just way too raw as a WR. He just looks way more natural and instinctual playing CB. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Richard Sherman got dog piled for basically saying he didn't stand out as a WR prospect but looked elite as a CB prospect. A few months ago you could find other players commenting on his limited route tree and raw route running but the search algorithms are flooded with love affair right now. The guy is the best CB prospect in years and he'll contribute on offense too. That is the absolute opposite of a knock on the guy. It's just the people buying into him being a full time two way player in the NFL like he was at Colorado who gets their panties in a wad over just stating the simple reality that he ain't gonna be a full time two way player at the NFL level with 17 games seasons and no Travis Hunter fan should want that either if you want the guy to make it to a second contract. -
Yeah, there's really no quality media coverage of this team but I mean, I guess it's understandable. Bad, small market team and virtually all legacy media is dying out already? I mean, not exactly a recipe for getting quality coverage. But yeah, you'd think somebody would try to follow up with the team on this issue. You have your most recent top draft pick who struggled with catching the ball as a rookie who openly talked about likely needing off-season surgery on his wrist to fix a lingering injury issue and evidently no one covering the team has thought it worth their time to try to get some clarification on the issue.
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What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah he's an elite NFL athlete. His route running is raw as hell because he's a CB playing WR. He's a plug and play CB. He's an elite project as a WR. He's going to be a a CB with a package of plays as a WR. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
He's nowhere close to being the best WR if you listen to people who understand playing WR at the NFL level. He was basically just an elite NFL athlete feasting on playing against college competition. He wasn't winning with technique he was just being a lot better athlete than the college DBs. He's an NFL CB who will likely have a handful of plays drawn up for him to contribute situationally on offense, half of them likely just using him as a decoy. -
IMO, The Draft Network has the most comprehensive breakdowns. Now with that said, in hindsight a lot of them are going to prove inaccurate no matter what source you're using. There's always going to be busts and steals in the draft.
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Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Selfishly, I'd LOVE to have Omarion Hampton on this team but after paying Chuba and spending a 2nd rounder in a trade up on a RB last year I just can't justify doing the same again. Hampton won't be there at #57. -
Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
LinvilleGorge replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Day three? Sure. First or second day? I hope not. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
True. But it's because he'd pick Ashton Jeanty and fug picking more RBs in the top 10. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Ask David Tepper's opinion then do anything but that. Call Hurney and ask him while he likes on the 2nd then definitely don't draft that guy. LOL -
They're on the QB struggle bus Mt. Rushmore along with the Bears, Browns, and... hmmm... who would be #4... maybe the Lions? I mean, they did have Stafford but they never accomplished anything with him and then he immediately won a SB as soon as he got traded. LOL
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It's honestly not that hard to convince me that Joe Burrow might actually be the best QB in the league he just plays for the Bengals. What Mahomes experienced in the SB Joe Burrow calls just another Sunday. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19p8H59Dbg/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
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So was Matt Kalil. At least that was the narrative heading into the draft.
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If there's one thing for sure about the draft it's that there's no such thing as a sure thing. Unless we're planning on doing something else with Icky I'd be fielding calls to move off of that pick.
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Miles Garrett spotted in Charlotte (
LinvilleGorge replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
No. fug no. Garrett is a STUD but we just have way too many roster holes in large part because of another massive draft capital trade we made. We'd have half a decade of premium draft picks tied up in two players. -
If Carter and Graham are gone and you don't think T-Mac is a top shelf #1 then I hope we listen hard if the phone is ringing.
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A long way to go until draft day. All these "big boards" will change a lot as the media guys get more info leaked from actual scouts.