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Tyrod has been ass too and can't run as well. Fields/Taylor just might make Bryce/Dalton the 31st worst QB combo in the league.

Justin Fields is just beyond ass. He's absolutely broken.

The Jets are not well coached. They need to be throwing the ball just enough to keep the D honest. The read option is working well for them tonight. Hand the ball off, run the read option, and mix in some play action passing to keep the D honest. This isn't rocket science but for some reason they seem really hesitant to run more read option.

That's what you get for that chicken poo play calling Vrabel

Adonai Mitchell is fuging garbage

Jets score on the first possession of the game essentially using Fields as a wildcat QB. That was basically a service academy triple option offense on that first drive.

Dumbasses don't know nothing bout no big time throws and GWDS

Literally all I'm asking for at QB at this point. More than that would just be icing on the cake.

Yeah, the Niners would be better off trading him for a mid-round pick or just keeping him as a good backup. A straight player swap wouldn't make any sense for them.

Yeah, he's just not this super processing fundamentally perfect QB that he was billed as. If he was he might still be able to be a Brock Purdy/Mac Jones level game manager type of QB but even then I honestly think his ceiling would be a mid-tier starter. He was never going to be the type of QB you're looking for in a #1 overall pick much less an absurdly costly trade up to #1.

I thought his arm was just going to be run of the mill below average. It's worse. I think part of the reason it's worse is that anytime there's any traffic in front of him he has to lift the ball up and over that traffic. Having to throw with that arcing trajectory is going to impact the velocity you can drive. In a clean pocket with the ability to step up, I think his arm probably is run of the mill NFL below average. But then put him in typical NFL game scenarios and it plays out a lot worse. I honestly don't think there's a big difference between his and Mac Jones' arm of they're both just standing around throwing the ball around in drills. But that's not an NFL football game.

Oh, I was too. I just still underestimated just how badly physically limited he was going to be.

People think "arm strength" = throwing the ball down the field but it's also needed in the redzone where the windows get tighter and sometimes you just gotta be able to fire a laser in there.

Bingo. There's been no real improvements. He just is who he is. That was the concern even his backers had going into the draft - that he might be about as good as he's going to get, yeH he's super NFL ready but they even admitted that his ceiling was pretty limited for a top draft prospect. It's just that everyone - myself included even as a detractor - significantly underestimated just how limited he was going to be on an NFL field. I thought if all went well and he could hold up to the hits at his size he could be a mid-tier starting NFL QB. I was wrong even in not wanting him and being labeled a hater in the pre-draft process. I still let the media allow me to convince me my eyes were lying to me and that he's not as limited as he certainly looks to be to my eyes.

It looks like this season. That's basically what we've done. Bryce had three good halves. He played well against the Cowboys who are one of the worst defenses in the league and he played well in the second half against the Cardinals when they were playing bend but don't break protecting a sizable lead. That's it. The rest has basically been trash.

Yeah, I don't think a fresh start can help Young because his issue is that he simply doesn't have the physical tools. This isn't a Baker or Darnold or Daniel Jones. Those guys always had the physical ability to play they were just in bad situations and landed in better situations that were able to maximize what they had to offer rather than dragging down a guy with abilities. Yeah, flaws as well but definitely physical ability. You can't coach Bryce into being able to see over the line or rifle a ball into a tight window or stretch the field. It's about physical limitations with Bryce and situation or coaching can't fix that.

He did not light up any starters or even any primary backups. He didn't start playing well until we cleared the bench. Why would you be willing to trade a 4th for a guy just drafted in the 5th who's done nothing?

Bryce Young throwing for 325 yards and 4 TDs?

I miss the Jim Mora interviews LOL https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17XB1fd8Dj/

I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. I just don't understand lacking options. If Bryce was out there killing it no one wouldn't be begging for the backup to play. If people are asking for the backup that kinda says everything about how your starter is doing.

Pretty much this. It's impossible to predict when and where he wants to exert his influence. I'm sure on most things it's minimal but where he does weigh in I'm sure it matters a LOT. I mean, the guy who signs the checks gets what he wants.

The pessimistic side of me says that played a big part in them not bringing in another QB

I hope. That's what I've been saying for awhile. Our best bet is that Canales and Morgan want to move on at the position and they're trying to get Tepper onboard and they win in that effort.