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There's just sooooo many variables involved and plenty of them have nothing to do with talent level. How is this kid going to handle being made a millionaire overnight? Will his game translate to the NFL? Is he going to be put in a good organizational/coaching/schematic system for him to thrive? Does he have the mental makeup to succeed at the NFL level? How is he going to adapt when everyone is almost as talented as he is? The raw talent is fairly obvious in a lot of cases. There was a TON to like about Zach Wilson in terms of raw talent but I'm pretty sure if I'd spent three minutes in an interview with him I'd been like... "uh... fug. RUN AWAY!" LOL!

Yeah, it was alarming when they felt the need to put a film study clause in his contract and then those comments from his former teammate Adrian Peterson about "Kyler Murray don't care about NOBODY but Kyler Murray". Like... damn. Y'all should've traded that dude for whatever you could've gotten and moved on.

I honestly expect every team that brings him on for a visit to have him step on a scale. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't re-weigh at his pro day. If he does and then goes through drills then I'll shut up about it. Yeah, he could tank up with water and add 5-6 pounds or so and then go take a leak before drills but that's about it.

What is the point of a post like this? What else is there to discuss in the NFL world right now? If you don't want to participate in it then don't but fug off with shitting on other people actually wanting to discuss the things there are to discuss.

This is a valid question IMO. It seems like he showed up at the Combine for one purpose and one purpose only - to step on a scale over 200 pounds.

I pretty much just give the guy a pass on mocking him mainly because I honestly think he may be mentally handicapped.

This would just be too much. Same will he or won't he crap as Favre, then end up traded to the Jets? Is he gonna send dick picks to some chick before ending up in Minnesota next?

The folks who don't like Verge... the thread is clearly titled. If you don't care about her input that's cool. Just don't click and don't participate. It's real easy.

Wouldn't shock me. I fully expect him to either be extended or released. Surely we aren't gonna let him hit us for $25M this year.

Yeah, as long as we've expressed serious interest I'm sure the Bears would loop back around to see if we want to sweeten the pot on our offer. The biggest thing working against us might be the Bears preferring not to slide all the way down to #9 from #1.

Let's be real. If we swing for the fences what's the worst that can happen? We suck and lose games? If we don't what's the worst that can happen? We suck and lose games? Anyone still left in Pantherdom is clearly no fairweather fan and can take losing. We'll be fine one way or the other. At least we didn't trade the franchise for a serial rapist or hire the architect of Bountygate. I can take losing. I can't take that poo.

It'll piss me off if they suck it up and take it in the shorts and land an elite QB prospect the good old fashioned way only because I screamed for us to do just that for years. Instead we'd half ass our way I to being just good enough to be out of reach and then let Fields fall in our lap and still not draft him. Damn... Rhule was a fuging disaster.

I honestly don't think so. He wasn't hurt at VT and being hurt has nothing to do with the offense he played in and him being 26 years old.

What you have is a pissing contest with another poster and now you're trolling.

Not impossible but I struggle to see it because I remember how pedestrian he looked at VT when he wasn't playing in that Tennessee offense. Did he pull a Hurts and improve tremendously in a different setting? Maybe. But I honestly doubt it. IMO he's a 3rd round talent.

Jake Delhomme = 52.6% in the defunct Big West. 64 TDs vs. 57 INTs

Richardson = 54.7% playing in the SEC Josh Allen = 56.2% playing in the MWC 32 teams should've passed on Pickett. No way anyone should've drafted that guy in the 1st.

To play devil's advocate here, our cap situation gets LOT better after this year. We could be significant FA players. And the 1st round isn't the only place to find talent in the draft. Especially when you have good young talent at the premium positions outside of QB. Icky at LT, Horn at CB, Burns at EDGE, Moore at WR, Brown at DT, etc.

Young is just too good at playing QB to last long on the board. Yeah, his small stature definitely raises questions about how long he'll last on the field and watching Tua get ragdolled around last year should still be fresh on everyone's mind. But still, someone is gonna take their chances high on draft night. Hell, it might be us.

They just became a more perfect situation. Now there would be no pressure to play him before he's ready.

This. We signed Teddy to a three year deal and he was cut after one season. The structure will tell you everything. This could very well be a "bridge" deal.

Everyone just assumes we would be drafting Stroud in this hypothetical trade up. I'm not at all certain that's true.

Pick #5 is the floor for what?

I'll be the first to admit that if Drake Maye was available I'd be pounding the table for him. But he's not. As such he's simply not a part of the discussion. A LOT could happen between now and next April. Hell, he could pull an Andrew Luck and opt to go back to school.