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Bryce Young throwing for 325 yards and 4 TDs?

I miss the Jim Mora interviews LOL https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17XB1fd8Dj/

I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. I just don't understand lacking options. If Bryce was out there killing it no one wouldn't be begging for the backup to play. If people are asking for the backup that kinda says everything about how your starter is doing.

Pretty much this. It's impossible to predict when and where he wants to exert his influence. I'm sure on most things it's minimal but where he does weigh in I'm sure it matters a LOT. I mean, the guy who signs the checks gets what he wants.

The pessimistic side of me says that played a big part in them not bringing in another QB

I hope. That's what I've been saying for awhile. Our best bet is that Canales and Morgan want to move on at the position and they're trying to get Tepper onboard and they win in that effort.

Still beats watching Russell Wilson throw the ball into the dirt as soon as a defender gets within five yards of him, same as it beats watching Bryce throw another three yard pass on 3rd and long.

It's just criminal negligence at the most important position in the sport. We have a guy with zero NFL physical attributes that has opposing defenses basically running goal line type defensive looks against us in the middle of the field because he can't effectively move the ball through the air and a 40 year old with a broken thumb and the Panthers' response to that basically amounts to...

I have no idea why anyone watching these games would need stats to tell them that, but I do appreciate the effort.

Yep. Right now defenses can just stack the hell out of the box because they don't fear a vertical threat. They can completely focus on nullifying the run and the short passing game. I've been saying it for a long time but Bryce at QB essentially turns the entire field into red zone offense. What he's turned into as of late is turning the entire field into goalline offense. It just took a dominant few games from Rico to force our opponents to play us the way they should've been playing us once they had a few games of NFL tape on Bryce to study.

The relief of Giants fans to see Jameis starting this week over Russell Wilson is where we're at with Bryce. Hell, it's where most of us have been at for a long time now. Giants fans know that Winston is probably gonna throw three picks on Sunday but they'd rather see that than this paycheck cashing version of Russ who just doesn't want to take a hit.

fug it, let's see it. Nothing is worse than watching this anemic passing game that is stuck in neutral. I'd rather watch interceptions than this poo. Straight up.

We could've sent a 5th and 7th to Seattle in exchange for Howell and a 6th after seeing Dalton look completely washed for two preseason games but we sat on our hands. Not saying Howell would be our answer but 99/100 Panthers fans would be foaming at the mouth to see him start over Bryce right now if we'd made that move.

I honestly didn't completely hate re-signing Dalton at the time but preseason was a massive red flag. The response should've been "oh poo, we desperately need a backup QB". He looked BAD.

The play calling and now the words have been strongly suggesting that Canales is trying to navigate his way through a lack of a QB.

At least Shenault is a threat to do something with the ball in his hands. XL hasn't even shown me that. Doesn't seem to have great vision and as a runner and goes down easy. Honestly, XL doesn't look long for the league and Coker and probably Tremayne too should've already leapfrogged him on the depth chart.

He sounded like he'd had a bit of truth serum and by that I mean he sounded like he was four or five deep. Those beers tasted like he was about to say what he really thought about Bryce Young. LOL

Obviously Schlereth isn't familiar with the GWDs and big time throws. Embarrassing for a professional football commentator to be trusting his eyes leading to him talking out of his ass and not realizing the greatness he was missing.

The only surprising thing is that teams haven't been doing this to us ever since they had three or four games of tape on Bryce.

I've said numerous times on here that I've never seen a prospect completely dupe the entire football world like Bryce did. Usually the NFL is brutal at devaluing prospects with less than ideal physical traits yet there were endless mental gymnastics performed to create reasons why it wouldn't matter with Bryce. I don't think that makes me a "savant". I just think for whatever reason the entire NFL world got caught up in some type of mass group delusion. It was bizarre.

Again, who is claiming to be a QB savant here?

Who is claiming to be a QB savant? It was blatantly obvious Bryce didn't have the tools to be a high level starting NFL QB. What I was wrong about on Bryce was that he was actually a lot more limited than I even thought.

The issue is that the NFL insists on extending "franchise QB" money to mid-tier or worse starters. If your guy isn't legit MVP caliber then you're probably better off letting someone else pay him and moving on. But GMs and coaches want to keep their jobs so they pay these guys fearing the alternative. Let him walk and implode and you're fired. Sign him to franchise QB money and you can probably limp along for another 2-3 years before the cap hits start strangling the life out of the roster and maybe you can even exceed expectations if you can draft really well.

Yep, I said it for years. He's a huge asset on a rookie contract who becomes a huge liability on a franchise QB contract.

Do you remember how all that went down? They didn't "eventually" do anything. Hell, they were trying to trade for him before he was even released.