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Dalton's game wasn't special it was just pretty good which makes it pretty special for the Panthers in recent years. In Bryce's best game as a pro he threw for 235 yards and a TD and we scored 15 points in an ugly defensive struggle win. I mean... that pretty much says it all right there.

Memories of the good times is all we have right now. I don't see any hope for this year... or next either to be honest. The only thing worse than not having a QB is the reality of likely being stuck with the one you've made a massive investment in for at least another season.

For not defending Young you sure are cranking out the excuses. Yeah, our offense sucks. But Bryce is a big part of that. It can't be denied that the offense didn't suck near as bad in that "one game". I won't mention the specific game or what was different so as not to trigger folks.

No, I don't. But the fact remains that he put up significantly better numbers in one game than Bryce has in nine. That can't be ignored. Same offense. Same OL (Dalton was under heavy pressure all game). Same receivers. Very different looking results. Interesting. I'm not directly comparing Bryce to Cam. Everyone knows they're very different QBs. My point was that you're looking splashes of the talent to be elite, regardless of the W-L record. We saw it in droves with Cam. We haven't seen much at all to cling to out of Bryce.

It can't be overlooked. The one game when we had a viable vertical threat to our offense was the one game when we had a different QB taking snaps.

But this, but that, but this and that, Dalton's game where the offense out up the most points, yards, passing yardage, 20+ yard gains, etc., etc. was a fluke... I mean, the list of excuses is starting to get really loooooooong

Yeah, it's the internet. I forgot that one always has to stick to their original opinion and never ever no matter what adjust it. That's why y'all are still on that Bryce wagon. Ignoring reality to stick with a prior conclusion.

If you polled Panthers fans going into the season we would've all said Bryce was going into a better situation. Everyone had Bryce tabbed as their ROY because he was going into the best situation of the rookie QBs. The one game Dalton played looked like what we expected Bryce to look like. I've ran out of hope to cling to. The boy's a bust.

Just a reminder for everyone trying to grasp at straws, make excuses, and find a play here and there through none games to cling to... this is what you're hoping to see from #1 overall picks. Cam's first game highlights: Cam had more highlights in his first game than Bryce has in nine. Hell, he had more by halftime. Bryce isn't gonna be anything like that. Now we're hoping he can just become a competent game manager and maybe not throw pick sixes on simple crossing routes.

Keep coping

He threw it even weaker than I thought. You're right, the ball really isn't late. It's just Bryce doesn't have the arm to drive it in there. He's gotta float it to the sideline.

I mean, I guess they could have players taking $$$ to shave points. Beyond that, maybe a couple of gift wrapped pick sixes by Levis? That's about it.

The ball should be thrown as soon as he's clearing the LB. About another step after this screen grab. The LB is squatting here and Mingo is on the move. Look at all that green in front of Mingo. A step after this a properly thrown ball with heat on it leading Mingo is potentially a big play. The negative outcome of this play is on Bryce, period. Sorry, not sorry

Imagine going from Joe Burrow to Bryce Young.

Are you really trying to argue that Bryce is supposed to stare at a crossing receiver with a trailing DB on his hip but wait until the receiver is outside the hashes making for a much smaller window, much more difficult throw before he actually throws the ball? The ball has to either be A) thrown sooner B) thrown backyard football style lofted over the top leading Mingo down the field (I suspect this is why Mingo starts to drift because the play as designed is basically shot by the time Bryce throws the ball) or C) Bryce has to come off of his stared down initial read and throw it to the now wide open Tremble. Mingo drifting one yard down the field didn't cause this play to go awry. Bryce being late and throwing a ball that brought the DB into play caused the play to go awry.

Bieniemy is part of the problem in Washington.

He doesn't have Wilson's athleticism and ability to throw on the run. Russ had a real knack for that poo. Always did. Drop back a mile, run around like an idiot, chuck up a prayer and... you have GOT to be fuging kidding me. Time and time again. Dropping back further actually puts even more pressure on your OL, particularly your tackles. They're trying to protect a pocket. If your QB is dropping back further than the pocket they're trying to form it's giving the edge rusher a clearer path. The QB dropping way back is basically gonna be a backyard football scramble drill play more often than not because the OTs can't block for that. What we should be doing is helping the OL with play calling. Lots of power running plays and setting up the pass with play action. On obvious passing downs, move the pocket. Bryce isn't Russ Wilson but he can throw on the move. Get him on the move and roll the pocket.

My ideal candidates... GM: someone Tepper leaves the fug alone HC: someone else that Tepper leaves the fug alone As long as Tepper insists on heavy involvement and micromanagement we're doomed.

The ball is late. I don't know what Bryce was waiting for since she was staring at Mingo the whole time. Once he crosses midfield and then the hashes the window is getting smaller and smaller with the defender in trail position. If the ball is thrown on time he's hitting Mingo right about midfield and leads him toward the sideline and you have the potential for a positive play. By the time Bryce throws it there's no real possibility of a positive outcome, unless he goes backyard football and lofts it leading Mingo downfield and taking advantage of the DB aggressively trying to play the ball. But throwing a duck toward the sidelines and a broken up pass becomes about the best of likely outcomes.

If Bryce is going to have any chance of success he has to fix his footwork. Like forget everything you're doing right now and start from scratch. He's not ready to throw it when he sees it. His feet and hips are all over the place. Even if he gets his read right or has time to go through his progression, once he identified his opportunity he realizes his feet and hips haven't come with his eyes and by the time he gets his body alignment right the opportunity is passed.

Yep. It's hard to have any sustained success when some level of the offense is shitting the bed on nearly every snap. The OL gets blown up or WRs fail to get separation, or Bryce blows a read or misses a throw. Damn near every snap.

Ugh. It's so bad. The OL is terrible. The receivers just look sooooooo slow. When guys are schemed open Bryce is missing the read more often than not. It's a poo show all the way around.

Oh, I remember. I got attacked for simply pointing out his marginal physical talent while still saying I was okay with drafting him. Because at the end of the day if all these experts think he's just THAT great mentally then surely they're not all wrong. Oops

It's wild how the narrative has shifted. It went from Bryce being one of the most polished, NFL ready QB prospects ever to him being some type of project. A 5'10" buck eighty soaking wet dude with no outstanding physical traits does not go #1 overall unless everything else is deemed basically perfect. All the experts got it wrong. They loved the kid, they loved the idea of this brilliant football savant carving up the league despite obvious physical limitations. But they significantly overrated both his physical and mental talent IMO and that seems obvious at this point.

For me, I wanted Richardson or Stroud depending on the interviews and full evaluations. I basically put myself through mental gymnastics to accept Bryce despite watching his college games and not seeing an NFL physical talent. It was cope.