LinvilleGorge

If this is the case, which I don't completely rule out, I wonder how Canales plans on navigating this mess of convincing Tepper we have to move on from Bryce while not getting himself canned in the process? Quite the tightrope to walk...

We've been daring to be great ever since Tepper bought the team just trying to skip that whole rebuilding process. We're always just one giant splash move away from being great... except we absolutely are not. We'll cut Cam and bring in Teddy Bridgewater. Oops, make that Sam Darnold. Oh, well... Baker Mayfield. We'll fire Ron and bring in this college hot shot who has never beaten a ranked team in his entire career. Okay, that didn't work let's go the retread route. Oh good lord, what a disaster. Okay, this interim did okay but we can do better. How about the guy that made our last QB wash out look serviceable? We'll mortgage the future of the franchise to draft this QB that looks like the kid the locals are really excited about who should be able to do big things on the varsity squad next year after running the JV team for a year to get his feet wet.

That makes no sense. Robinson isn't great, but he's serviceable and the Commanders' RB depth chart looks like straight trash without him.

If your 3rd year QB still needs a WR to run the offense pre-snap you're already fuged. If this is the case, then I think we NEED to move Thielen because we need to see if Bryce can do it.

He's from Minnesota, his wife is from Minnesota, his family is in Minnesota, pretty sure his primary residence is still in Minnesota. I think I already know the answer to this, but yeah, I agree that I would put it to him like in large part because I'm 99% sure I already know the answer.

The David Tepper way. We've constantly acted like we're just that one guy away from taking the league by storm and establishing a dynasty. It's baffling. This isn't basketball. Outside of an MVP caliber QB, one player's impact is limited. Even then, if the rest of your roster isn't at least decent, even an MVP caliber QB's impact is relatively limited in terms of overall team success and W-L record. We saw it plenty of seasons with Cam. We're seeing it with Burrow in Cincy.

Maybe, but I'm not sure. Scourton has been heavy enough but his production dipped big time when he bulked up to the necessary size in college, he also lacks the length. Princely has more length but a considerably less bulk. They were both considered 3-4 OLBs as prospects for a reason.

I'm surprised to see them move Phillips, especially for so little. He's a decent NT and they don't have much behind him on paper. Hell, they only have two healthy NTs on the roster currently.

The sad thing is that they'd laugh at you for the offer.

Understandable take.

Not sure if he initiated it but I'm very sure he's not gonna stand in the way of it.

Yeah, with Renfrow available to fill that veteran presence role for a lot cheaper I think we're well positioned to turn AT into future assets, plus I'm sure he would be more than happy going back to Minnesota where he's from and where he's spent his entire career. This is one of those rare win/win type situations where it's for the best for everyone and would give the Vikings a great feel good story to rally around.

If you move Thielen I think you almost have to keep Renfrow. You need some sort of veteran presence in the locker room and Renfrow would be good insurance in the slot. I'm sure we have Coker penciled in to start there but you also have to be keeping Coker in the back of your head as XL insurance on the outside if he doesn't step up. If he flounders again, I wouldn't wait too awfully long to replace him with Coker outside and slide Renfrow into the slot and keep it moving.

We've both been bottom feeders but their arrow sure does seem to be pointing up. We'll see if off-season and preseason promise translates to regular season success for them. But damn, Dart really did show a LOT of promise. They definitely have reason for optimism.

Well, sounds like Thielen is as good as gone. I wouldn't expect a coach to even entertain talking about trading a player in the days leading up to week one kicking off unless it was happening. Those types of questions are usually just flat out shot down by coaches.

I think he has a decent chance of not making the 53. He'd be no higher than 5th on the WR depth chart and didn't do anything to show out on special teams. I would prefer those bottom of the roster types to be special teams contributors.

Yep, it just doesn't make much sense given our current situation. The smart move would've been to just wait and see how his knees hold up this season first.

Yeah, I honestly don't see Horn making the roster unless moving AT frees up a spot for him.

Who's to say he wouldn't love it? He's from Minnesota. His wife is from Minnesota. He his entire college and pro career in Minnesota until he signed here.

We're the Panthers. Somehow everything we do comes back to bite us in the ass. LOL If Bryce regresses this year and we choose to move on its practically guaranteed he goes somewhere else and turns into the Lions' version of Jared Goff.

It can go that way too. Mine aren't so great either. Both of my MCLs are gone and both should probably be scoped to clean up some floating cartilage issues. I was told by a sports medicine doctor a decade ago that I'll probably have to have at least one knee replacement by the time I'm 50. I'm 43 now but honestly they're holding up better than I expected. The first hour or so of the day sucks but once I get limbered up I'm alright. Either that or I'm just used to it. LOL

To be fair, you can't do any worse than 32nd out of 32 since Tepper bought the team. You or me could've been calling the shots and we couldn't have done any worse than last.

While basically not practicing. These things usually continue progressing as long as the guy keeps playing. Do you really think grappling with other jumbo super athletes for 60 minutes once a week is improving chronic knee issues? Let's just be realistic here. He will get some improvement with his knees once he stops playing and sheds 75 pounds. As long as he keeps playing and carrying 300+ pounds they're gonna keep getting worse. That's just the reality of life for a biological creature.

Based on our past actions the answer isn't comforting.

Historically speaking, they sure seem less capable than many DIII programs. I really don't understand when Panthers fans pretend like this has been a competent organization. We've lost more games than any other team since Tepper bought this franchise. That's just the reality of the situation.