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The below average receiving corps is also hampered by subpar QB play. It's a two way street.

We're going into an absolutely pivotal off-season. This fanbase is definitely teetering on the brink. We don't have generations of diehard fandom to lean on like a lot of other franchises. Winning fixes everything but Tepper has definitely turned a LOT of fans off. In years past even when we were bad you saw a lot of folks rocking Panthers gear. I live within an hour and a half of BOA and I find myself doing a double take anytime I see someone wearing Panthers gear out and about. I've caught myself turning my Panthers gear into work clothes this year. Haven't bought any new gear since the team was sold. Can't see that changing anytime soon.

The sad truth is that he's regressing. It's hard to fathom because he's been consistently bad but it's true. We all complained about the offense having limited vertical threat all year but I think we saw why today. When we had receivers open downfield Bryce couldn't put a ball on them. It is what it is but some folks just continue to invent new excuses.

Hell, we can't even line up from under center in short yardage situations. We have to completely build an offense designed to compensate for the shortcomings of the guy we traded up to get #1 overall. That's the polar opposite of what you go all in on.

I don't know what's more embarrassing. That our professional football evaluators picked Bryce over Stroud or that Bryce defenders are spiking the football feeling vindicated after Stroud's seconds bad game of the season. Stroud had a typical Bryce game today and while y'all defend Bryce you come with knives out for Stroud because of cope. I'm embarrassed for y'all.

Holy poo that walk off punt return for a TD the Ravens just pulled off in OT.

This is 100% absolutely undeniable fact.

Good god man. Adam Thielen is about the only thing that's been right about this offense this year. Y'all are blowing your backs out with these mental gymnastics trying to convince yourselves that Bryce is gonna be alright. Yeah, our receivers outside of Thielen suck, but Bryce also missed them badly downfield all day today too. Everyone sucks when the balls aren't catchable.

I watch a lot of college ball and was baffled about his draft evaluations. I was laughed at repeatedly this off-season for openly questioning his NFL talent level. He always looked to me like an old school classic Heisman winner who just wasn't gonna translate to the NFL level.

Some of y'all badly need to watch some other games. Watch other QBs throw lasers. Watch them drop dimes while being pressured. Watch backup QBs look way better than Bryce across the league. It's all out there.

Bryce was missing receivers all over the place downfield. The ability some of y'all have to continually invent new excuses is just wild to watch. I honestly feel secondhand embarrassment watching it

How about all the wildly erratic downfield passes that no one has a shot at? A lot of those "drops" were poorly placed balls that brought a defender back into play when a better ball would've been an easy catch that would've been very fair to blame the receiver on if it wasn't converted.

It's so obvious but the copers just don't want to admit it. Deep out? Nope. That's a pick six. Anything over 20 yards? Can't be in the playbook. You are running a VERY limited passing playbook with Bryce. You're effectively turning the entire field into a redzone offense.

Wentz was elite before he got injured. Goff doesn't have typical #1 overall type talent but I think we thought we were basically getting a more athletic version of him in Bryce.

Matt Rhule and Bryce both duped the poo out of Tepper over dinner and their bank accounts are very healthy for it. Good for them. Whenever Tepper gets tired of getting embarrassed for being a dumbass on football maybe we can have a chance again.

I just don't know how much input they actually have. Aside from Bryce we so consistently draft high RAS developmental guys that it really feels like it's all Tepper "analytics".

And it wasn't just our front office. Evidently a lot of NFL teams missed it. All the talking heads missed it. I just don't see how. I was laughed at repeatedly this off-season for having the gall to question Bryce's talent level. Well... how about now?

It's honestly very possible.

Opposite sides of the same bad QB coin. Wilson is bad because he has million dollar talent and a ten cent head. Bryce is bad because he has ten cent talent. We were sold on a million dollar head but I honestly ain't seen it.

I legit LOL when they act like the folks who don't think Bryce is gonna make it don't understand what they're watching. Like

I'll be the first to admit that I thought Fields would be better and I honestly think the Bears need to move on. Fields needs a fresh start elsewhere and the Bears need to restart that rookie QB contract window again. But Fields is in a different universe than Bryce in terms of physical talent.

The problem is David Tepper.

The big difference is the talent level. Even when Fields wasn't playing well you could see flashes of elite talent. You don't see it with Bryce.

I guess you can trade high picks like crazy when you nail mid-rounders.

Seems like a great guy. Helluva college QB. But he's Chris Leak. HS prodigy with subpar measurables, good college QB, but everyone saw he didn't have NFL talent. I just don't know how they missed it with Bryce.