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Watch DeVito throw the ball. Do you see the speed of his release? The velocity of the ball? The fact that his feet and hips are aligned and ready to throw the ball? That's what it's supposed to look like. This guy is flat out better than Bryce Young. It's not even close.

The concern with Tua was that he might not be elite. The concern with Young is that he might not be NFL caliber. They ain't the same and Bryce sure as hell ain't better

That list legit might include literally every other QB currently on an NFL roster plus Cam Newton on a couch.

The list of people who would trade Tua for Bryce is literally non-existent. Tua is actually what we were sold that Bryce was. Then Jimmy Clausen with a little bit of wiggle in the hips showed up

And before people start coping, the Giants are probably tied with the Commanders for the worst OL in the league. They paid Daniel Jones like a legit franchise QB and he looked like a bigger version of Bryce Young this year. This kid can legit play a little. He looks better than Bryce has at any point this year.

Tua is way better. Tua is what Bryce was supposed to be. Average arm strength with elite accuracy and anticipation with plus mobility.

Tommy DeVito is better than Bryce Young. By a pretty wide margin. He's a rookie UDFA

The list of QBs who look better than Bryce basically include all QBs on an NFL roster at this point. Hell, Zach Wilson threw for 300+ and 2 TDs this week.

You're reading way too much into it man. People are just saying they don't feel bad for a Bryce because he's young, rich, and has plenty of opportunities available off the football field.

Yeah when it comes to football I feel bad for guys ruined by injury or the guys who are late round picks or UDFAs and bust their asses in training camp and badly want it and just don't have the talent.

Yep.Same with guys like Matt Leinart. Bryce will be calling college games or the QB coach at Alabama or a college analyst. He'll have plenty of opportunities off the field or he can just kick back and enjoy the money.

Compared to someone with Bryce's money, yeah most everyone here is flat broke in comparison.

The S2 and the "arm elasticity" talking point might not survive Bryce.

Yep. Exactly. The kid will always be a Heisman winner and has a ton of money in the bank. Yeah, he'll go down as one of the worst NFL busts ever but I imagine he'll manage.

Oof. Brutal pick six from Levis.

Tonight's MNF double header does not look extremely intriguing.

Just cashing those checks. "Loss Monday" is just plain old Monday in Panthersdom

Something something about he doesn't need elite weapons because super processor PG mentality

OL play across the league is so bad that it definitely feels like they're getting some very lenient officiating. On a lot of games is watch the OTs are taking off just a hair early on practically every passing play. If I'm a DL coach I'm coaching my edge rusher to stop playing off the snap. Don't look at the ball to try to get a jump on the OT off the snap. These guys are leaving early. Go off the OT not the ball. If you go off the ball he's going to be well into his set by the time you engage him.

We're definitely contending in the division IMO and Frank and company are still here. Don't get me wrong, I still don't think we'd be a good team but we'd be in the mix in a bad division. Then we'd be talking about guys like McCarthy, Penix, possibly Jayden Daniels, etc. as possibly long term QB options. Long story short, we'd be in a helluva lot better spot.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not fan of Saban in the least, I just put zero blame on him for the Panthers' talent evaluation blunder.

What I'm saying is that I just don't see the potential to turn it around.

Based on what? How many of these "flashes" have there been? Seems to me that for every flash play that makes you think we might have something to work with there's at least ten plays that leave you shaking your head thinking there's no way this guy is ever gonna make it in the NFL. And honestly, the flashes are graded on a curve. Not the type of #1 overall or 1st round type prosect flashes you're normally looking for, simply flashes of NFL competence like you'd be looking for out of a late round pick trying to earn a roster spot.

Why fug Saban? His job is to field a winning college football team and few have done it better. Of course he's going to speak positively of his prospects, it helps him recruit when they get drafted highly. Being mad at Nick Saban or Bryce Young for doing all they can to maximize his draft status is akin to the Chiefs being mad at the ref for throwing a flag on their WR who was obviously lined up offsides. The anger is understandable, but misdirected. We should be mad at the dumbass Panthers for being duped, not Bryce and his camp for seeking to maximize his draft stock just like the Chiefs should be mad at their dumbass WR for lining up offsides.

The bad (and you can definitely call it that) thing is, David Tepper is definitely one of them.