LinvilleGorge

Would you be happier if we just banned any and all dissent? Would that make it easier for you? When you're 0-5 and have a streak of losing seasons leading up to being 0-5 you're not going to find a lot of positive takes. Sorry.

Just listen to the man himself. Every time we make on of these bold moves he's there to give a presser and proudly brag about his personal involvement in this decision. Then when it inevitably goes to poo he fades into the background until he throws someone under the bus then he's back in the spotlight once again bragging about his personal involvement in this decision and something about mediocrity not being tolerated and something about analytics and moving forward with a plan.

So goes the team so goes the fanbase. When the team is a clusterfug the fandom will be a clusterfug. This isn't a new phenomenon. I'm just going to go back to my pre-Peppers ways. Keep an eye on the Panthers out of casual interest since they're the local team but other than that generally just watch whatever the best matchup is at that time and follow players that interest me on other teams. It's just not worth it to stay heavily emotionally invested in this organization right now. It's like staying in an abusive relationship at this point.

These are all Tepper's people. Ever since he decided to start putting his stamp on the football side of the house after focusing on the business side in year one we've been on a freefall to the bottom.

A lot of injuries on D. A lot of turnovers and just ineffectiveness on offense putting more pressure on the D. It's all just a recipe for disaster. 0-5 ain't a fluke. We've earned it.

It was time to stick with Dalton after Bryce struggled early on and Dalton looked a lot better in Seattle. Milk the ankle excuse. Ride Dalton until the bye and see where we are. He probably tails off considerably and you use the bye to get Bryce fully ready after some weeks of learning from the bench without the pressures of playing. If we somehow manage a respectable record and Dalton is playing well keep riding the Red Rifle until the wheels fall off. But once you went back to Bryce now I think you're committed to it. If you sit him at this point without an injury excuse the entire football media is gonna be screaming BUST and it's going to put even more pressure on the kid.

Yeah, two blowouts going into the bye and I would fully expect some changes over the bye week. At least that's one week the Panthers won't take an L... unless we get bilked in another trade.

NIL money is definitely going to hugely change these decisions. When you can get paid millions in college there isn't this desperate need to go pro as early as possible.

Lance has all the physical tools you want. But yeah, he's a complete bust. That's why all they could get for him was a 4th. That's way less than the Jets could even get for Darnold. It is what it is, man. Most highly drafted busts have elite physical talent, that's why they were highly drafted to begin with. You are deluding yourself if you think the Niners didn't do their damnedest to develop this guy after making that trade. He just wasn't it.

Yeah, the Niners are better everywhere from the owners suite to the front office to the coaching staff to the roster, hell probably down to the equipment manager and water boy.

Think back to Cam's rookie year. How many games would we have won with a D that was simply not atrocious. That guy went out there and gave us a fighting chance. Bruce just can't do that or at least hasn't shown that he can do far. Bryce needs the team to give him a fighting chance. That's the difference between a dude and a JAG.

I'm perfectly happy to be wrong. Hell, I HOPE that I'm wrong. But I'm not going to delude myself and twist and turn to try to paint a rosy picture. The picture is what it is.

Which is a HUGE problem when you make a massive trade up to take a guy #1 overall. You're making that move for an elite talent who can elevate the guys around him. Bryce looks like his ceiling is probably a JAG. He's going to be as good or as bad as the situation around him.

I'd describe it as he hasn't been good, much less perfect.

Trey Lance is a complete bust. All trading a 4th for him would've accomplished is pissing away a 4th.

Watch the game last night and honestly try to argue that all Purdy did was throw to wide open targets. Yeah, their scheme is way better than ours. Yeah, their weapons are way better than ours. But Purdy made at least 10 high level throws with elite anticipation and ball placement. The type of throws that Bryce has been just a hair late on or the ball has been just off enough on to allow the defender to make a play. Not bad throws, just not quite good enough.

You're not watching and that's causing you to completely embarrass yourself.

Oh god. We now have people clinging to 5-10 yard passes to "prove" that Bryce can throw outside. Let me see him throw one deep out. It's gonna be a pick six, but let's see it.

Tepper needs to fire himself from involvement in football related decisions first. It's pretty obvious he's clueless about football and as long as he demands to interject himself into these matters this is going to continue to be a clown show of epic proportions. The deeper we get into the Tepper era the worse it gets.

He's similar to Bryce IMO in that he needs to be in the perfect system with top tier surrounding talent. What he's shown that Bryce hasn't so far is elite anticipation and ball placement. But put him in this system with this surrounding talent and he probably looks about like Bryce. Put Bryce in SF and he probably looks about like Purdy. What chaps my ass is that when you're looking at a prospect who has to be brilliant between the ears to make up for what he lacks physically, that's a late round draft pick because everything is going to have to fit together perfectly to make this work.

Because they're winning. Every team makes some dumb moves. Even colossally dumb moves. It doesn't matter if you win. The old saying "winning fixes everything" is 100% true because at the end of the day that's all that matters. No one beats you up for the mistakes you're bound to make on the way if you're winning because the point of all these moves is to produce a winner.

Higgins a 1st and a 3rd for Burns and TMJ? Bro, the Panthers brass works for the Panthers. We're the only team in the league dumb enough to do that deal.

I think you're giving them far too much credit. I just think they're wildly incompetent.

Celebrity fascination is just utterly bizarre to me if I'm being honest. But you do you