LinvilleGorge

The Belichick disaster can't end soon enough. I feel like both of my college and pro teams are being absolutely held hostage right now.

Beck just can't help himself. Threw another pick. LOL

Still saying that? LOL

Beck is ass and the refs just massively bailed him and Miami out with an absolutely bogus roughing the passer flag thrown well after the play was over and the ball was picked.

Miami looks cooked

I wouldn't care about it if I didn't think it would play into the Panthers' decision making process. It is what it is. We made a colossal mistake. I just hope we don't allow the hesitation to admit that colossal mistake lead to another one.

This is almost as bad as putting mustard sauce on BBQ.

This is a very fair point. Virtually no one who has been as bad as Bryce has been gets this many starts and he's gotten them because of the massive investment we made. And I said the investment made is irrelevant but honestly it isn't. It should be but it won't be. Not in terms of the thought process. Not picking up that option would be admission that we made a huge mistake and that's a tough pill to swallow. If we hadn't made that investment there would be ZERO thoughts put toward giving Bryce another $30M guaranteed. We're stuck in the rut of sunk cost fallacy. A finance guy like Tepper should be able to clearly see it but human emotions and ego are what they are.

It's irrelevant in terms of the decision to come but it's tiring listening to fans talk about the guy as if he was some mid-round pick drafted to be a backup. No, this guy was drafted to be the face of the franchise and an elite franchise QB. I honestly don't think there's any fans left delusional enough to think that will still pan out. The new cope is that he can prove to be consistently mid and that we can build a great team around him. The problem is that is purgatory. A consistently mid QB is still going to sign a contract that's one of the top 20 highest deals in the league and leave you hamstrung to put the type of roster around him that he needs to succeed.

Do you honestly think we traded all these assets to draft Bryce #1 to get a guy who peaks at mid-tier game manager? Hell no. We thought we were getting Patrick. Now plenty of us pointed out all the red flags in Bryce's measurables and play style as to why that wouldn't be the case but alas...

But we're not talking about 90% of QBs in NFL history. We're talking about a guy who we traded a fortune for to draft #1 overall. It's about whether or not we pick up his 5th year option. Any thoughts of a long-term contract should be completely off the table. You can honestly get Bryce Young level play from a journeyman vet backup and it'll cost a lot less than his 5th year option. Can't wait to see the Bryce stans blaming our RBs when they aren't going for 200+ yards to carry Bryce and he regresses.

Well, fug it. Offer them a 5th rounder or something. I'd rather do that than pickup Bryce's option.

"They're playing the way they have to play with Bryce Young at QB." Some of y'all need to listen to that about 30 times in a row.

I'd honestly rather sign Mac Jones as a bandaid.

So far this year, our D has either been great or virtually non-existent, oftentimes both within the same game. So who knows?

This is what I want to know. We spent a ton of assets to get Bryce and we've done the right thing by him in investing tons of assets in trying to put an OL in front of him and weapons around him and the best we've seen is mid-tier starter type play and even that only erratically. So far, this season is looking like the worst case scenario. Bryce keeps doing just enough to keep the organization clinging to hope. All I wanted out of Bryce this year was boom or bust, anything other than mid. We need teams to adjust to our newfound dominant running game so that we can get that. I fully expect Bryce to regress again once we don't have best in the league RB play behind him but with this soft patch of scheduling I'm afraid he's gonna be able to do just enough to leave the organization still clinging to hope. Just please prove me wrong and be that guy or go back to faceplanting. This stuck on purgatory stuff has to stop.

He rushed for 74 more yards than Chuba did last year. He also played in all 17 games versus 15 for Chuba.

He's played like an average starter in maybe a third of his career games. Below average to bad in the rest. My point is that if you put a 200 yard RB behind pretty much any NFL roster caliber QB he's going to be able to play like an average starter leaning on that running game. But we're talking about a third year #1 overall pick with 30+ starts under his belt and we're still having to grade on a massive curve like we're playing some young mid-round pick who was drafted to be a backup. If that was the type of guy we were playing yeah, everyone could be happy about it but it's not. It's a guy we mortgaged the franchise on because the organization thought they were getting a franchise QB who could carry a team and we're still having to try to find ways to carry him.

Yeah, Bryce is basically playing like an average starter while riding the best RB in the league. Not saying Dowdle is the best RB in the league overall, but he has been over the past two weeks.

Dead serious. Put Hurts on this team and import their offensive system and we could largely duplicate what they do. Our OL is at least as good. They have two really good WRs but the offense isn't really built to heat utilize them. Barkley has regressed pretty hard from last year's peak. Dowdle is literally out playing him. Hell, he's outplaying every RB in the league over the past two weeks. THAT is the story with the Panthers right now. Yeah, Bryce has been playing better again but he's been playing better while riding a backup RB who has been the best offensive player in the league over the past two weeks.

That's because you're reaching HARD. You're gonna blow your back out with these reaches. Flacco literally threw for nearly 100 more yards against a significantly better team.

We have a great offensive line and two really good RBs. Dowdle has pretty much been the best player in the league over the past two weeks. AJ Brown seems like he wants out of Philly because he isn't being used.

Pretty much. I mean, we have the tools to largely duplicate what the Eagles are on offense.

No. That's not it at all. QBs either help lift up a team (elite to good starting QB), basically get you what you'd expect out of the overall roster (average starter), or hold you back (below average to bad starter). The Eagles built an offense around Hurts' strengths. Would he be as good here in this offense? No. Better than Bryce? Yeah, I'd confidently say that. Would the Eagles be worse with Bryce than Hurts? A lot worse. You seem to think Bryce is in that "average starter" category but that's where Bryce has peaked. "Good Bryce" has been in that category, but typical Bryce I had firmly been the the "below average to bad starter" category. I mean, 40 year old Flacco just came off the bench after being on a team for a matter of days and put up what would be Bryce's best game ever.

You can't possibly be serious