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65th in pass blocking rate is the issue. This isn't 1985 anymore. You're not paying LTs to be road grading run blockers. He's above average for a starting LT as a run blocker. He's well below average for a starting LT as a pass blocker. The issue is that you're paying LTs primarily to be pass protectors.

Possibly. With the rumors swirling about Moton it's easy to convince yourself that it's possible that OT is a LOT higher on our list of needs than would appear at a glance. The other distinct possibility is that we feel like Icky isn't putting in the work and we want to light a fire under his ass. If it's the latter, I would expect us to ultimately pick up his option but likely not be super aggressive to sign him to a huge extension. In which case, again OT would be a lot higher on our list than most would assume. The smoke is saying OT is a lot higher on our list than most of us think IMO.

I would be SHOCKED if we got that type of offer for #8. Keep in mind, per the (admittedly imperfect) draft pick value chart, #1 is worth over double #8 (3000 vs. 1400). It is very much an apples vs. oranges comparison.

Off season after off season of bandaid duct tape patchworked together rosters just trying to salvage this season after this season has created an organization that has never put together consecutive winning seasons in it's three decades of existence.

Yeah, I think there are guys that we feel comfortable picking but we'd prefer to slide back and get an extra pick or two.

Poor salesmanship on that one. "Yeah, we got some calls." and refuse to elaborate on that would've been the right way to field that one.

I sure wish we'd had that in SB50...

If we're not sold on Icky long-term and Moton is going into the final year of his contract and possibly has career shortening knee issues going on, it's very possibly that OT could be a LOT higher on our needs list than fans would think.

If we're not sold on Icky long-term and Moton is going into the final year of his contract and possibly has career shortening knee issues going on, it's very possibly that OT could be a LOT higher on our needs list than fans would think.

No we didn't. Those guys tested the free agency waters and couldn't find anything better. They saw the market.

Players don't take team friendly deals to stay in dumpster fire organizations. At 31 this will be his last shot to get one last payday and possibly his last shot to try to compete for a ring of that's what he wants. He generally fits the description of a guy who would demand a trade more than he fits the description of a guy open to take a team friendly deal with his current team.

If we think the BPA is an OT and there's no compelling offers to trade down I'm open to it. You gotta remember Moron is going into the last year of his contract and you're either going to have to back up the Brinks truck to pay a guy on the wrong side of 30 or you're going to have to let him walk for a comp pick... or you trade him.

Drafting a position we've never drafted in the 1st round in franchise history feels "panthery"?

I'm in favor of always keeping your options open.

Gettleman was famous for NOT trading down. Something about a quarter for two dimes or something or other.

All options should be on the table. Always. I never loved Gettleman's probably ego driven stunt of running the pick up immediately to show everyone how confident you are of your decision. If the phone is ringing I'm listening. Yeah, you may really like a prospect available but someone on the other end of the line might like someone available to the point that they're willing to do something stupid to get him. Now granted, working against us is the reality that our owner is the poster child for that person on the other end of the line but that aside, yeah we should always listen if offers are coming in and there's time on the clock to hear them.

They were running late this year. They just came in just now. I was having a beer on the deck and they splashed down.

OP is just a massive hypocrite who wants to cry about people attacking him personally when the entire premise of his thread was rooted in personal attack of a prospect and his family who I personally don't care for either. This crap of doing a thing and then crying about it done to you is just the most passive aggressive beta poo on the internet.

OP is just a massive hypocrite who wants to cry about people attacking him personally when the entire premise of his thread was rooted in personal attack of a prospect and his family who I personally don't care for either. This crap of doing a thing and then crying about it done to you is just the most passive aggressive beta poo on the internet.

The guy starting a thread on the premise of a trolling nickname now accusing others of trolling. Amazing. My point was you could've taken your inflammatory crap out and had a good productive thread but per usual you just want to bait a fight and then play victim when you get what you wanted.

Im trying to prove that you're a poor and pugnacious communicator but you're doing a more effective job of that than me so thanks. LOL

You posted an opinion to in your own words "start a thread" of discussion on a public forum, so yeah kinda. I'm not criticizing your personally. I'm just saying that when you type in an obviously intentional inflammatory way you're pretty much derailing your own thread right from the jump. Why?

The hang up and repeating ad nauseum of the $$ thing didn't help your post.

He's transferred once and he's 20 years old. DJU transferred what felt like a dozen times and felt like he was collecting Social Security checks while playing college ball.

It's why I doubt there's going to beany appealing offers to trade back.