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Yep. Wishful thinking for Arizona and just listing teams with a need at QB as possible "suitors". Well yeah, any possible suitor would be a team with a need at QB. That's obvious.

I sure hope not.

In Carter's defense he basically equalled XL's first four years in final year. But yeah, if you're 6'3" and run sub-4.4 and have shown much of anything on a high major college football field somebody is gonna roll the dice on you. 5th was a reach but the 6th and 7th rounds are basically full of guys with either the measurables and lack of production or production and lack of measurables.

Not at all. If you have those types of receiving numbers (XL's first four seasons that should've been his entire college career minus COVID) you better be an incredible returner if you have any chance to get drafted. XL wasn't really an impact return man. These are begging for a shot as a UDFA numbers The only thing that might have gotten XL a shot were his workout numbers. That's it. Prior to that super senior year he's the type of guy who might've been able to land a wildcard UDFA shot and probably released in the first or second roster cut downs never to be heard of in the NFL again.

Every team has. The NFL will take chances on guys who have all the raw talent. Every coach worth his salt thinks he's the guy who will be able to break through to this guy and make him into the player he could potentially be if everything clicked. It just rarely plays out like that.

Literally none. Like might not have even gotten UDFA tryout invites before getting that extra year. He had 423 career receiving yards over four seasons coming into that super senior season afforded him due to COVID. What an absolute financial lifeline that proved to be for him. Good for him, glad he made the most of it. I just wish someone else would've taken the bait in the draft.

Happens in every draft. Guys that look like Tarzan and play like Jane get over drafted every year and always will.

Yeah, having turnover issues while still putting up numbers is one thing but to have all that talent and still be absolutely stuck in the mud is just something entirely different. All that talent and worse production that Bryce. That's crazy.

Yeah, Fields would be even more frustrating than Bryce. Bryce sucks but you watch Bryce and realize that he just doesn't have the tools so you can't really even blame him. It was just a complete talent evaluation miss. But with Fields you clearly see all of the tools and yet he still just flat out sucks. That would be infuriating to watch.

Tyrod has been ass too and can't run as well. Fields/Taylor just might make Bryce/Dalton the 31st worst QB combo in the league.

Justin Fields is just beyond ass. He's absolutely broken.

The Jets are not well coached. They need to be throwing the ball just enough to keep the D honest. The read option is working well for them tonight. Hand the ball off, run the read option, and mix in some play action passing to keep the D honest. This isn't rocket science but for some reason they seem really hesitant to run more read option.

That's what you get for that chicken poo play calling Vrabel

Adonai Mitchell is fuging garbage

Jets score on the first possession of the game essentially using Fields as a wildcat QB. That was basically a service academy triple option offense on that first drive.

Dumbasses don't know nothing bout no big time throws and GWDS

Literally all I'm asking for at QB at this point. More than that would just be icing on the cake.

Yeah, the Niners would be better off trading him for a mid-round pick or just keeping him as a good backup. A straight player swap wouldn't make any sense for them.

Yeah, he's just not this super processing fundamentally perfect QB that he was billed as. If he was he might still be able to be a Brock Purdy/Mac Jones level game manager type of QB but even then I honestly think his ceiling would be a mid-tier starter. He was never going to be the type of QB you're looking for in a #1 overall pick much less an absurdly costly trade up to #1.

I thought his arm was just going to be run of the mill below average. It's worse. I think part of the reason it's worse is that anytime there's any traffic in front of him he has to lift the ball up and over that traffic. Having to throw with that arcing trajectory is going to impact the velocity you can drive. In a clean pocket with the ability to step up, I think his arm probably is run of the mill NFL below average. But then put him in typical NFL game scenarios and it plays out a lot worse. I honestly don't think there's a big difference between his and Mac Jones' arm of they're both just standing around throwing the ball around in drills. But that's not an NFL football game.

Oh, I was too. I just still underestimated just how badly physically limited he was going to be.

People think "arm strength" = throwing the ball down the field but it's also needed in the redzone where the windows get tighter and sometimes you just gotta be able to fire a laser in there.

Bingo. There's been no real improvements. He just is who he is. That was the concern even his backers had going into the draft - that he might be about as good as he's going to get, yeH he's super NFL ready but they even admitted that his ceiling was pretty limited for a top draft prospect. It's just that everyone - myself included even as a detractor - significantly underestimated just how limited he was going to be on an NFL field. I thought if all went well and he could hold up to the hits at his size he could be a mid-tier starting NFL QB. I was wrong even in not wanting him and being labeled a hater in the pre-draft process. I still let the media allow me to convince me my eyes were lying to me and that he's not as limited as he certainly looks to be to my eyes.