LinvilleGorge

I said leading up to the draft that Bryce looked like the typical great college QB who simply doesn't have what the NFL is looking for and goes as a mid-round flyer to a team drafting him as a backup but hoping he can prove them wrong. I never looked at Bryce and saw a 1st rounder much less a #1 overall.

Yeah, that OL is trash and it's definitely not helping.

Definitely valid. Good one.

On the field? Since I guess it qualifies as multiple instances it might not count, but have the damn refs throw some flags on illegal hits to Cam's head in SB50. If that doesn't count, 1A. Cotchery caught it 1B. Kasey keeps that kickoff inbounds. Off the field? 1A. Team is sold to anyone but Tepper 1B. We have the patience not to mortgage the franchise on that Bryce trade. Stroud would've been the better pick but he's not worth it either.

I mean, at least Bryce seems like a good dude. If someone is gonna fleece the Panthers and doom us to purgatory then damn it at least have it be a decent dude. Kinda like Luke Bryan. Yes, his music polluting the airwaves is awful but I had a buddy who worked I. The music industry in Nashville for years and he always said Luke Bryan was the genuinely nicest most down to earth guy in the biz. So yeah, somebody is gonna make a lot of money to sing that trash might as well be a good dude.

Make the best of your situation by trying to build the best roster you can, don't seek to replicate your starter's deficiency.

I explained it. Because that's the highlight of his career so far and it was a pretty basic TD pass to a wide open receiver. A rope? Sir... please. https://youtube.com/shorts/eiZpYihbJDY?si=CRXuIq6kzgx6gP8I That's as basic as a toss for an NFL QB. Clean pocket, play action gets the D to bite, wide open receiver, easy little pitch and catch. Not a bad play at all. It's just kinda embarrassing when that's considered your career highlight. This is a rope https://youtube.com/shorts/eiZpYihbJDY?si=CRXuIq6kzgx6gP8I

We lost three of our past four with Bryce having a historical pathetic game in one of them, two mediocre games, and one good game. That's the reality. Showing up one game out of four with the playoffs on the line is trash tier for a third year #1 overall pick. Greatest defense of all-time? GTFOH. Hell, I'd argue they weren't even the best defense in the league last year. I'd give that to the Texans. Seahawks were #1 in points allowed (they allowed 3 points fewer than the Texans) but were 6th in yards allowed. They sure as hell weren't the greatest of all time.

Don't you remember that time he turned around and signaled TD as soon as he released the ball to a guy who was WIDE ASS OPEN? I mean, that very basic ass play with an admittedly nice little celebration factor has been the highlight of his career so far.

14/24 for 54 yards and an INT with the playoffs on the line. People talking about us "winning" the division ignore that we did all we could to lose it and just got lucky with tiebreaker. We lost our last two and three of our last four with a playoff berth right there for the taking taking. Bryce threw for over 200 yards in one of those finl four games games.

He always showed the physical talent though. He's just a guy who absolutely cracks of you put the weight of the offense on him. You have to treat him like a game manager and as such you shouldn't pay him like a franchise QB because he's not. Sam Darnold is a high level game manager. Bryce is a poverty level game manager. Bryce should be making the type of money that we gave Pickett. Pickett should be making vet minimum desperately trying to stay in the league, like Will Grier.

I knew within two games that this dude didn't have NFL level talent and was never going be a legit starter. It was painfully obvious. It still is. The Panthers just refuse to acknowledge it.

Those aren't deficiencies. Replicating deficiencies is illogical. specifically targeting QBs with subpar arm strength is illogical.

And yet here we are...

There's no logic in specifically targeting players who lack key NFL talent measurable. Logic says to not do that. Never in my life have I heard anyone attempt to argue that if your starting player lacks in a key area that you should target backups who also lack in that same area. That's because it's illogical.

I'm not one that's too big into workouts unless the workouts are historical outliers. His lower body explosion numbers are definitely historical outliers in the wrong way.

My least favorite pick but I hope he proves me wrong.

I'd settle for about any 5th rpund journeyman who can reliably throw a football 20+ yards against NFL defenses. It is not a tall task to find better arm talent than is in our locker room.

Hope Bryce faceplants and this upcoming QB class turns put to be all that it's hyped up to be.

I'd just focus on building the best roster I could and my focus this year at QB would have been finding a guy to put some serious heat on Bryce, not building a QB room that seems to be assembled with the primary objective of not hurting Bryce's fee fees.

It makes no sense to pile up guys who have marginal NFL arm strength. Would you pile up corners and receivers who run 4.7 40s? Linemen who can't put up 20 reps on the bench? No, focusing on accumulating players with marginal NFL talent level doesn't make any sense.

Bingo. Sure seems like not having an arm that might make Bryce look bad in comparison is the primary criteria for being added to the QB room in Carolina because we sure are piling up guys who have subpar at best NFL arms.

The rhetoric from the Panthers on this since day one has been that they have "conviction" on Bryce and no amount of evidence to the contrary was going to convince them otherwise. It seems like we've gone out of our way to avoid putting any pressure on him, at least publicly and seemingly internally if roster construction is any indication.

I sure hope that's the thought process inside the Panthers' organization but I seriously doubt it.

Bryce is at absolutely most generous a D- considering the overall investment of the #1 overall pick and the trade to acquire it. Zavala is the only clear passing grade in the class. C+ seems about right to me. Not a great pick but also not a bad pick in the 4th round. If you can consistently add serviceable depth in the 4th and 5th rounds you're building out your roster on the cheap and that's what you have to do in the mid to late rounds. Well managed teams consistently find roster caliber players in those rounds. Starters and stars are obviously nice to have but once you get past round 3 serviceable depth is a passing grade.