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Yeah, Shula was the QB coach. I honestly completely forgot about Chud. When he took the Browns job we should've swung big for an OC instead of just promoting Shula. Yes, I guarantee Shula leveraged his "success" with Cam to get that job and just proved that yeah, it was Cam not Shula. That bum got carried for years by a generational talent.

Cam had his most efficient passing seasons under Norv after his shoulder was trashed. Meanwhile, Shula never got another NFL OC job. He finally got a college OC job at South Carolina and got his ass fired mid-season because he was making a presumed 1st round QB look like a guy who wouldn't get drafted. I give credit to Shula for Cam's rookie season and creating an offense that maximized his skills at that point at the NFL level. But Shula never evolved his offense beyond that. I desperately wish we would've seen a Norv Turner tyor coordinating the offense for Cam starting in year two or three but we let Shula ride him into the dirt.

The problem is that you have a very small handful of legit good games to cling to vs. all the rest of Bryce's career. He has to be at his absolute best. Even "good" on the "Bryce curve" is below average for NFL starting QB standards and "average" on the "Bryce curve" is "we need a new fuging QB" for NFL starting QB standards.

Damn, that'll be a historic year for QB's on IR across the league.

I was pretty shocked to see us get three primetime games. 6-11 honestly feels like a pretty rational prediction with us playing a decision winner strength of schedule.

Hate it for him personally and hope he recovers well. But honestly, reaching an injury settlement and moving on would probably be a best case scenario for the Panthers. This signing always felt like a desperate knee-jerk reaction to losing out on Milton Williams. Williams was a logical scheme fit while Wharton just wasn't. He's best used as a rotational interior pass rushing specialist in an even front. He's way too small to play the nose in a 3-4 and he lacks the length and juice to play the end. Healthy he's a nice roster piece in the right scheme at the right price but we overpaid him to play him in the wrong scheme. The signing just never made any sense to me and I said so at the time.

Sorry, everything in sports is blue to me. Panthers, Tar Heels, it's gotta be blue. LOL

Because Wade Phillips was playing chess vs. Shula's checkers. Shula very predictably countered the opposing D having success in the pass rush by keeping extra blockers in so that he could still run his same slow developing downfield route stuff. Phillips knowing we had no receivers he was scared of vs. his secondary and running primarily man coverage countered this with "blue dog" blitzing. Essentially if the man you're supposed to cover stays in to block you blitz to nullify the extra blocker, now it's back to hat on a hat football and Von Miller vs. Mike Remmers one on one is a nightmare. Shula had no plan C. There was no counter to the counter. We were cooked at that point. Screens? Chip and release routes from the extra blockers staying in to take advantage of the guy coming in hot on a blitz? Quick slants or drags to get the ball out faster? Nope. None of that. The guy was a fuging moron.

My parents went to the Truist golf tournament in Charlotte last week and a bunch of former Panthers were doing the pro-am thing. They had great things to say about all of them, even Smitty. They said they were all having a lot of fun and super friendly and engaging eith the crowd. Specific players mentioned were Smitty, Luke, TD, J Stew, there were definitely more but those guys come to mind immediately.

I mean, Bryce isn't very good but Kenny Pickett is fuging terrible. That we paid him like a good backup was insane. Pickett should be on league minimum deal just hoping to make a roster.

Reportedly heard by bystanders before he threw his beer at a fan: "let them eat cake"

Not wrong.

It speaks volumes about what a joke the field of sports journalism is.

I still reserve my right to bitch about how incompetent the Panthers are at running a football organization and point to the mountains of evidence in support.

If we extend Bryce on a franchise QB contract I'll check put as a Panthers fan until the nightmare is over. I'll just go back to being a general football fan and tuning into the most interesting games of the day. Hell, I've been halfway there for years. For years I've been alf ass watching the Panthers on one screen while watching other games on other screens.

We don't have one of those.

I came over from the old Panthers Insider site. When Fox Sports bought that platform it slowly just started dying plus the guy who ran that site was dealing with some pretty significant health issues so the whole thing just slowly fell apart. Quite a few of us migrated over here. Not sure how many are still around. I miss that place. It struck a nice balance of having enough active posters to keep productive conversation flowing but didn't have so much traffic that you end up with a lot of trolling BS. This place is getting there though since we shutdown new registrations but at some point we're going to have to open it back up or we'll watch this place slowly die off too as posters fall off for one reason or another. We just have to figure out a way to filter out the spam bots. It was a never ending battle to ban the spam bots to keep then from overrunning the site. You'd think they'd be a little more strategic. I mean, if you fill a site with nothing but spam people are just going to stop coming so it's not a sustainable model. But nope, every one of them makes dozens of duplicate threads filling up pages upon pages as soon as their account goes live.

The one and dones just don't do much for me. Let them go straight to the NBA. Get rid of that rule. I honestly think that rule was largely a knee-jerk reaction to that disastrous 2001 draft class that saw Kwame Brown, Tyson Chandler, and Eddy Curry go 1, 2, 4 straight of HS and all bust. Chandler ended up developing into a good defensive big man but it took years of development and he was never close to worth his draft position and he was by far the best of that highly touted HS "phenom" class.

Yeah, it's just dumb. Everything is year to year. I never understood how anyone could stay engaged as a Kentucky fan or duke fan as duke became a one and done factory like Calipari made Kentucky. The thing I liked at about UNC is that we primarily focused on recruits likely to play multiple years. We'd have pur occasional one and done but most of our pros still played multiple years. And the days of the Stackhouses, Wallace, Jamison, Carter, etc. playing multiple years is just over. And now you have your role players entering the portal every year to test the waters elsewhere. I don't blame them for looking out for themselves but just personally speaking I'll run out of interest quickly trying to get to know a whole new roster year over year.

You think we'll have an important late season game? That's bold.

Yeah, he's revitalized that Tennessee football program but his offense so far while producing on Saturdays isn't translating into skill position players that are producing on Sundays. That's not a knock on him. His job is to win college games. But it is something to keep in mind on draft day and it probably had a lot to do with why a guy with Brazell's measurables and production was available in the 3rd round. 1000+ yards and 9 TDs with his measurables usually means 1st round. But there's a lot of concerns with Tennesee WRs having very limited route trees and QBs having very simplified reads. Works in college but hasn't been translating to the NFL.

This is a complete poo show for the Pats. At this point I guess they just gotta hope that this thing largely runs it's course as a major media topic through the offseason. The absolute shamelessness of these two is just astounding. I feel terrible for their spouses and kids.

It was a big risk. I hope he's over his injury issues. I also hope he relearns how to tackle. He's a damn good cover corner but he ain't Deion Sanders level where he can get away with matador tackling.

Dude seems to be enjoying taking a losing argument and just arguing for argument's sake and pretending that he's winning. This could also be referred to as delusionally making an ass of oneself.

The Hurney special, converting non-guaranteed salary to guaranteed bonus so you can spread it out across the contract. If he stays healthy it'll be a good move. But that's a big IF given his history.