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It's hard to lose a game with a 200+ yard RB.

Yep. We closing in on decision time. I'm out on Bryce, BUT I'm still open to picking up his option IF he continues to play as he has in recent weeks to buy us more time. But if he regresses again after a period of improved play as he has before we gotta just move on. Does Bryce honestly provide much of any lift over what you'd expect to get out of a journeyman NFL backup? His history of play suggests not. I need to see him continue to be an effective game manager before I'd be comfortably picking up his option and any consideration of a long-term contract should be completely off the table and out of the building.

It's the same thing that made Bryce the #1 overall pick. I've never seen such mass delusion about a football player before. Everyone convinced themselves that the fact that Bryce was below to severely below average in practically every physical attribute for an NFL QB just wouldn't matter because he has everything else you need and that'll more than make up for it. When has such an argument ever been made for an NFL prospect before? We watch prospects plummet every year because they run a couple tenths slower in the 40 time than expected. Smitty had everything you want in a receiver except he was 5'9" so he goes in the 3rd round. That's the way these things generally go. If you check a lot of boxes but leave some key ones unchecked you're not an elite prospect. With Bryce though, the physically limitations were always obvious so it gave more time to be able to build that into the equation and come up with reasons for why he'd be able to overcome it. Now we have all these same shortcomings having shone brightly on the NFL field and we STILL have people trying to convince themselves he'll be able to overcome it while ignoring that our past two wins and his improved play have come while riding the back of RB putting up GOAT RB production over the past two weeks. What changed wasn't Bryce. What changed is that Rico is playing out of his damn mind. Pretty much every NFL roster caliber QB can shine if he can get 200+ yards out of the RB behind him. If you can't effectively manage a game while handing off for 200+ yards then you can't cash an NFL check as a QB.

Yeah, if you can find a GOAT level QB willing to play at a discount because his supermodel wife is bringing in even more that's a sweet deal... and because he craves success due to being completely looked over in the draft and forever wants to prove everyone wrong due to that. The problem is that has proven so far to be a one of one situation.

Ultimately all that matters is where the Panthers' brass falls and this article is horrifying https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25260995-panthers-bryce-young-reportedly-seen-true-franchise-qb-team-amid-improvement

Here's the thing and I'll disclose a bit of inside baseball here... We have a mod only forum where we discuss matters, posters, etc. Everyone was ready to pull the plug on you and I was the lone holdout. Ah, give him a chance. He contributes to conversations when he isn't being a troll and maybe he'll come around. Since you're here outright admitting that you plan to just continue trolling. I'm done. You ran out of runway. Just for the sake of full transparency.

I can't recall. What was it?

I mean, he practically admitted it was his dream job waxing poetically about it and everyone in the building. He did everything but flat out publicly ask for the job and admit that if he has an offer he'd gone. I completely disagree. He handled that terribly. It wouldn't have been that hard for him to simply say "Listen, that's my alma mater I have nothing but love for my memories at Penn State but I'm the head football coach at the wonderful University of Nebraska and that's where every bit my focus is - Nebraska football and the kids in that locker room and building this program back to where it expects and deserves to be and that's all I have to say about this."

It's amazing how much you complain about thread derails while constantly doing stuff like this.

Thanks for saving me the typing.

The team doesn't rely solely on the QB position, so far it's relying on either A) the opposing QB having the worst day of his life or B) a backup RB playing like prime Adrian Peterson.

Imagine being a Nebraska fan watching this I mean, good grief. Might as well have just said it's his dream job and my ass is GONE if that offer is in the table. Hell, imagine being a Nebraska PLAYER watching that.

It's great. It really pisses Billy Corgan off that's so many people's favorite pumpkins song since it's one of the few he didn't completely write. Iha wrote the guitar riffs that everyone lives in that one and Corgan basically just half ass threw some lyrics over top of it and everyone loved it. LOL

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Talent evaluation issues aren't the fault of the player. All you can ask of the player is to work hard and do everything the coaches ask of him. By all indications he has done that. Same for guys like Clausen and Armanti Edwards. It's not their fault that the organization over drafted them. They put in the work they just weren't good enough.

Brutal

The investment in the defensive front this off-season is showing up and even the terrible LBs behind them are starting to look serviceable because of it. The D honestly looks a couple of pieces away from being pretty damn good.

He doesn't have the talent to be the long-term answer as a starter but I've always legitimately liked the person and I respect the guy. He's tough and he doesn't quit on himself. He took his benching like a man and improved himself. I respect that. I just don't want to see us making the mistake of committing to him contractually as a franchise QB. That will be crippling to the organization.

Feels like the Steelers vs. the Colts last year where Tomlin was telling his defenders to take it easy on Anthony Richardson because they didn't want to hurt him because they wanted him to stay in the game. That's gotta be about the biggest slap in the face you can hear from an opposing coach. LOL

At some point it's just not working. The Bengals have made their decision to dump all of their cap into QB and WRs. It is what it is. They really should've traded Higgins. They desperately need OL and D. Burrow isn't doing them any good flat on his back and then on IR.

Yep. Nothing wrong with simply being a great coordinator.

Agreed

McDaniels looks like he'd be relieved to get fired. He's aging like a POTUS this year.

Same. I just hope they're only feeling itchy on the 5th year option. That wouldn't be disastrous. A multi-year extension at franchise QB pay would be disastrous.

30 years? THIRTY??? No way... IMO the best album of my generation in terms of a true album experience of just turning it on and letting it play beginning to end.