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It's the Panthers. Evero was a holdover from the last staff that was assembled by Tepper and I'm sure it was Tepper who told Canales he was staying onboard. Canales probably feels like the guy doesn't even report to him.

We desperately need a Panthers version of that guy's reaction

That's not the level of effort that's going to warrant more snaps. At least Scourton had initial get off, he just had no idea what to do once an OL get their hands on him.

Booty cheeks. Doesn't look like he has any pass rush plan or any technical moves to defeat blocks. He pretty much just tries to bull rush the blocker then immediately quits if that doesn't work.

We should've brought in someone like Jameis or Howell. Someone who has shown they can put up numbers but have struggled with turnovers. If Bryce struggles, you can play them and more fairly evaluate the rest of your offensive talent positions and if they clean up their turnover issues maybe you aren't absolutely desperate for QB in the draft. If they don't you're gonna keep losing anyway so whatever.

Evero was a Tepper guy, not a Canales guy.

Yeah, that ball sailed through the back of the endzone 20' off the ground. Surely to god that wasn't a "miss".

A lot of people really overrated the "improved" Bryce. He basically just went from being the worst starting QB in the league to maybe middle of the pack. It just seemed relatively great because he was so completely awful previously.

In terms of a multi-year starter... honestly, he's in the conversation. Have their been worse one off starters or guys who have started a few games? Sure. But in terms of a guy who has gone into multiple seasons as the planned franchise QB? I mean... oof. Bryce is up there.

Trying to continue to be positive about Bryce is like trying to be positive about the prospect of getting your girl back when she's moved on and is dating a rich dude with a knee knocker. It's over so get over it.

This all just seems like mental gymnastics to keep making excuses for Bryce. The guy threw the ball away on 4th down. I mean... LOL! There's no defending it. We can breakdown the play til kingdom comes to see what else went wrong but the BIG thing that went wrong is our QB panicked, lost his head, and threw the ball away on 4th down.

The one thing you can't do in that situation is sail the ball through the back of the endzone 20 feet above the ground. That's a guaranteed fail. Taking a sack trying to scramble around is considered the cardinal sin there but at least you're TRYING to do SOMETHING. Throwing the ball away in that situation is just unthinkable.

Too early to say. Let's talk again around Halloween and we should start having an idea.

I mean, Bryce could've just thrown it to wide open Sanders coming right across his face.

Jacoby Brissett is probably plenty good enough to get the W over this squad.

No he wouldn't. His shoulder is shot.

Except when it comes to the QB position. Everyone else evidently exists to carry the QB.

The record doesn't matter in preseason. It really doesn't matter whose camp bodies win out on the scoreboard. But the eye test certainly matters, especially when you're a bad team. If you're a good team you can kinda brush it off. But a bad team needing to change course and develop confidence? Going out there and having your starters and primary backups looking like unwashed ass is a big red flag.

Oh lord, of course he does. Yeah, you're probably right. If Renfrow was bigger he could've won an MMA fight with the DB and still caught that under thrown wounded duck and if he was 6'2" with a 40" vertical maybe he could've reeled in that ball that sailed over his head along the sideline. It's wild how that guy will crucify receivers but just give Bryce pass after pass. Maybe he sees himself in Bryce - a guy who has marginal at best NFL talent but could have maybe succeeded if he was surrounded by a cast of All-Pros.

Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at above. There's no way to create a flawless statistical evaluation model but you gotta have some type of weighted system to account for the impact of truly great or disastrous plays. You can't just grade every play as equally important. Again, the weighting system WILL be flawed but you gotta try and you gotta keep tweaking it to get the grade to best reflect what you're seeing because that's ultimately the goal, right? To create a grading system that accurately reflect the overall play if the player. I mean, even if Bryce had hit on all his near misses and those drops had been caught, he would have STILL had a bad overall game given the impact of the disastrous plays but PFF's system allows those almost plays to help him while downplaying the impact of the disasters. The same is true on the opposite side for a QB who may not have played great overall but had a handful of brilliant plays that had a huge impact on the outcome. Cam had quite a few of those types of games.

I wonder who that QB School guy is gonna blame now that Thielen is gone? I'm betting that XL will become his new scapegoat as the sole reason why Bryce isn't shining.

Why keep a bandaid? If Bryce needs a 35 year old possession receiver to help him get this offense set and to catch 5 yard passes and get tackled immediately to not look like complete and utter ass then that kinda says all that needs to be said.

And have a pass rushing rotation of two 2nd round rookies and some low level FAs.

And hid under a hoodie so they wouldn't see that he was rocking a dad bod because he porked up to weigh in as heavy as possible. Again, hate the game don't hate the player. Hell, I bet Christian McCaffrey's eyeballs were floating he was so tanked full of water when he got on those scales.

You know, it's actually possible to appreciate Josh Allen without shitting on our QB GOAT. I mean, it's not even difficult. I sure wish our organization had built Cam an OL and put receivers around him like the Bills smartly did with Allen so that we could've seen what prime Cam could've done with a good offensive unit around him and I wish that the Panthers had an OC that wouldn't just rely on Cam's elite physical tools to carry his offense but alas...