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If we think he's an ELITE player at the position. I mean a Gronk, Kelce, Witten,Sharpe, Heap, level player (basically Greg Olsen being his FLOOR)... I'm not mad.

At least they didn't draft Kayvon Thibodeaux. LOL

It's about playing the odds. You're trying to hit on a long shot when you're picking a guy with all the measurables and none of the production. 3rd round? Sure, I can be sold on that depending on how the board falls. Top 10? Craziness.

My point was and is that it's rare. LOL

So one. Who was a third round pick because of his lack of college production. If we're talking third round this becomes a completely different risk/reward conversation. The one thing the vast majority of NFL busts have in common is that they had the athleticism. Every year around this time people fall in love with athletic freaks who didn't produce and the one thing most of them have in common is that they will go on to continue not producing in the NFL. It's rare for guys to see their production increase at a higher level of competition. Not non-existent but definitely far from the norm.

Go down the list of good rushers in the NFL and find me one with single digit college sacks. A guy doesn't have to be an All-American caliber college producer to project well but this guy but up 3rd or 4th guy off the bench numbers as a starter. That's alarming as hell.

I don't buy into this concept that a high major P5 coaching staff would play an elite NFL caliber athlete in a role that would lessen his impact. I also don't buy into this concept that you overdraft underperforming high level athletes on the hopes that you can coach them into productivity. There's a time and a place to draft these types and IMO it ain't in the first two rounds of the draft. These types are the prototypical NFL busts.

Honestly the right call. I can't see him going higher than the 4th or 5th and he'll make plenty of NIL money while trying to improve his stock.

I hope Stewart isn't even on our list of potential 1st round picks and is really low on our list of 2nd and 3rd round picks. He just had a terrifying lack of production for a top 100 pick. He's the type of guy you take a late round flyer on to see if you can make a football player out of an athlete but a pretty good P5 college program failed to do it so your odds aren't great.

He's an absolute prototype of a workout warrior bust. Maybe he'll break that mold but it's highly doubtful. I honestly wouldn't want him at #57 much less at #8.

Igninosun? GTFO. I watched all of OSU's playoff games and everyone's game plan was to try to pick on that guy. It was hard to do because of the surrounding talent but that guy sucks and he'd have to play with boxing gloves on his hands to keep him from grabbing not to be getting constantly flagged in the NFL. He didn't look draft worthy and I doubt he would be if he was playing on some random P5 team.

We've been drafting workout wonders for years now. Outside of Bryce pretty much all of our picks on the Tepper era have been guys who check all the measurables boxes and what has the result been? Trash. There are no prospect evaluations cheat codes but we sure have been operating like RAS is one.

Only getting a 5th for him pretty much confirms what I've been thinking. Deebo is cooked.

Y'all are freaking out over nothing. The top prospects not doing drills is the norm these days. Did we see Travis Hunter out there? Cam Ward? Shedeur Sanders? Mason Graham? Ashton Jeanty? Abdul Carter was dealing with the foot issue but probably wouldn't have done drills either. This is normal. It sucks but it's normal.

I hate it but if you're considered a top 10-15 pick you generally just don't do drills at the Combine. That's been the case for awhile now.

Yeah, the DBs, RBs, LBs, and DEs absolutely FLEW. If you didn't run fast it's because you ain't fast or maybe you just had a bad day, whatever. But it wasn't because of the field.

Get press the fug out of the locker rooms. You're going to have your press conference, ask your questions there. You don't need to be up in the players' business when they're changing and either celebrating or decompressing. I mean, damn...

4.88 is bizarre. He plays like a mid-4.6 guy.

His lack of statistical production is a massive red flag. The guy has worked out like Superman but has the stats of a total JAG. Not an NFL JAG. A college JAG that isn't even on the NFL radar. His stats are traaaaaash.

Speed at CB is not going to be a concern on this draft. 18 CBs have ran 4.5 flat or better. 7 have ran 4.4 flat or better. Two at 4.3 flat. Hunter was right not to do the drills. I honestly don't think he would've stood out. He would've tested VERY well but it would've probably threw a little cold water on him being athletically head and shoulders above the pack. Across the board so far there are some ATHLETES in this class.

Massive free outreach to recruits. The reason NFL teams hate it is because there's no competitive advantage. That's not the case in college football.

As most know, NFL teams have become very resistant to being featured on Hard Knocks. So... in steps Belichick and UNC. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-bill-belichick-unc-to-appear-on-offseason-hard-knocks holy poo

I know there were some folks here pretty high on Iowa LB Jay Higgins. 4.82 is pretty rough. Slowest LB to run so far by a pretty wide margin.

LOLOLOLOL He's probably not dropping to #8.