LinvilleGorge

I wonder if people realize we're still seeing roughly 1000 deaths per day due to COVID? We'll be over 100k early next week. As for Trump and Pelosi... honestly, I wish both of them would just go away.

You'll very rarely find me defending Trump, but even Trump has stated his disagreement with how fast and reckless Georgia has been with their reopening.

The equivalent to the population of Asheville has died so far despite massive mitigation efforts.

Any comparison to HIV is just incredibly dense. HIV is only contagious through direct contact with bodily fluids. COVID will likely prove to be 5-7x more deadly than the common flu and likely twice as contagious. It killed as many as a bad flu season starting at halftime with a score of zero. Give it a full season when it starts with an already established foothold in every state and then come talk.

I'm not saying keep everything locked down. But avoiding crowds? Absolutely. Wearing masks when in public? Yeah. Making an effort to maintain social distancing when and where possible? Yeah. We want the numbers to be as low as possible going into next fall. We hit over a million confirmed cases starting at halftime with zero. We'll be staring down the barrel of a full season starting with a helluva lot more than zero starting next fall. This is why second waves are worse.

This is why we're going to get mollywhopped by the second wave this fall. Over the course of the summer, the numbers will naturally tail off. More and more people will get tired of practicing social distance. More and more people will start crying wolf. The vast majority of people are absolutely clueless that the worst of this is still ahead of us.

Go ahead and go to church. Sing loud and proud from the bottom of your lungs. Put forth joyful noise (and lots of aerosol droplets). What could go wrong? https://www.yahoo.com/gma/nearly-200-possibly-exposed-coronavirus-religious-violated-stay-235400073--abc-news-topstories.html California public health officials have notified more than 180 people that they may have been exposed to the coronavirus at a religious service held in violation of the state's stay-at-home order. The Butte County public health department said Friday that an attendee at the service tested positive for the virus a day after the event.

So, basically what we're looking at if everything goes to plan is the possibility to be able to vaccinate high risk populations by year end with widespread vaccine access hopefully before 2021 cold/flu season kicks off. Either way, the second wave is coming and it'll be rough.

I honestly doubt it. I think there will probably be enough people who maintain social distancing standards, wear masks, etc. when combined with the naturally reduced contagiousness of the virus in warmer temps that it will postpone the second wave until the fall.

This virus is much less contagious in warmer temperatures. It will continue to trend down over the summer. We NEED it to continue to trend down. If it doesn't, the second wave in the fall will be a helluva lot worse.

The thing that concerns me most is that everyone is betting on that we're on the other side of it. Everyone expects this quick bounceback. No one is preparing for the economic impact and effect of a second wave.The second wave in the fall is practically inevitable. The only way to prevent an even bigger economic fallout is to develop some highly effective, widely available therapeutics in the meantime because a vaccine won't be ready in time to prevent it even in the best possible vaccine development case. I can see it now. The second wave hits this fall and everyone is screaming and crying about "who could've predicted this??!!!" Well, just like the initial arrival of this pandemic on our shores, the answer is practically every virologist and epidemiologist on the planet.

The Moderna vaccine trial is going very well. https://www.yahoo.com/news/moderna-vaccine-human-trial-produces-133828334.html

What about this is so hard to believe? It's a novel virus. It likely started in China in October or November. It was likely fairly widespread in China by the time they reported to the WHO in late December. Still, that means thousands of cases. NY's outbreak was traced to Europe, not China. The vast majority of our outbreak traces to NY. With the high contagiousness of this virus, it doesn't "slowly percolate".

You'll have to forgive me for not having a ton of confidence in numbers touted by a guy whose primary "contribution" to healthcare was participating in insulin price fixing to maximize profits. He's already shown he's fully willing to watch people die to make a buck. He should be in a prison cell beside Martin's Shkreli.

Unemployment always takes the elevator down and the stairs back up. Unemployment numbers are already massive. 70% of the economy is consumer spending. That spending (and those jobs) aren't coming back immediately.

This is the massive error in thinking most are having right now. I'd honestly call it mass delusion. This fall will kickoff the second wave of this poo. It's going to be a far cry from "normal".

70% of the U.S. economy is consumer spending. Unemployment is probably going to hit 30%. You can't snap your fingers out of that either.

Will it? How many of those stores and restaurants could make it through an entire cold/flu season with significantly reduced revenues? Unemployment numbers are going to stay sky high until their can be a full blown return to normalcy. Government stimulus efforts can only keep things artificially afloat for so long. Our current economy is a house of cards built on the widespread expectation of a quick V-shaped recovery. Once that becomes an obvious pipedream this fall I think poo is gonna get U-G-L-Y.

That's the thing. What makes it depression level is the prolonged length of time. Everyone thinks it's just going to bounce right back. It won't. The service industry is going to get massacred by this.

It's amazing how everyone has underestimated everything about the impact of this pandemic. Back in January, oh it won't come here. It did. Back in March, everything will be back open in a couple of weeks as this thing tails off. Two months later and stuff is just now starting to reopen. Now... "Assuming there won't be a second wave..." WTF??? A second wave is inevitable. The second wave WILL be worse and more widespread because it'll start at the beginning of cold/flu season, it'll last the whole season, and it'll be kicked off by an already widespread presence of the disease, not a new introduction. Everything we're seeing about "V-shaped recoveries", "quick bouncebacks", etc. all assume no second wave. It's delusional. It's not an outlook based in reality. All these economic bandaids can only last so long. The second wave will bring the economic reality of the true impact of this pandemic. With that said, I hope I'm absolutely dead wrong but I honestly think it's going to get Great Depression levels bad this fall through next spring, but I also think we can have a have a pretty robust recovery starting next summer because I think we'll likely have multiple vaccines starting to become widely available before we get to next year's cold/flu season but if I think it'll take 2-3 years to get back to pre-pandemic levels.

More and more states are starting to slowly open things back up.

The second wave hasn't hit either. The second wave of the Hong Kong flu was much worse than the first.

If you want to take a lesson from that pandemic, remember that the second wave was a lot worse than the first.

Probably a good time to shed employees since they likely need to anyway after the merger with Sprint. There are going to be a lot of stores close. Plenty of places where there's a T-Mobile store with a Sprint store basically or literally across the street.

Seems legit https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-europe/