LinvilleGorge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/239-experts-1-big-claim-151916602.html Please wear a mask.

It's really not good that Florida and Arizona are currently leading the charge. Arizona is basically Florida West in that it's the top retirement destination for the western US.

The WHO is looking worse and worse on this. Don't let that distract you from our utter failure as a country, but the WHO had an awful response as well. Trump's claims that the WHO is in China's pocket may not be completely unfounded, but again, don't let that distract you from our failure. Since these early days, there has been plenty of data available that we've largely brushed aside while watching virtually every other developed nation on the planet do a much better job of managing their response to this virus. Can't blame the WHO when that's the case, but the WHO should take a long look at itself after this to examine how they can also improve. https://www.yahoo.com/news/changed-coronavirus-timeline-got-first-110340600.html

That alone should be enough to revoke a medical license. That's some powerful stupidity.

Are we gonna have to temporarily lock this thread again? I feel like I'm dealing with my four year old daughter here.

Take this stuff to the TB. Our COVID response (or lack thereof) clearly has unavoidable political tie-ins, but the course of this conversation is pure TB territory.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but new cases were fairly flat until mid-June. The people who are being infected during this spike probably haven't started dying yet.

This is why we won't have football in the fall. https://mobile.twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/1278380475548139520 The same thing will happen in the NFL.

Yep. We tried that first Friday the NC mask mandate went into effect. Virtually no patrons were wearing masks. The restaurant staff were wearing them around their chins. We just turned around and noped right on out of there.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to do all beef due to a pork allergy in the family

In early November, we'll just be starting cold/flu season. The reality is that Trump bet his presidency on COVID running it's course quickly and a resulting quick V-shaped economic recovery despite every virologists and epidemiologist on the planet saying that was the least likely scenario. He bet big and he lost big.

Also, for recipe translation sake, I have to assume that "like 4 people" probably translates to roughly half of a typical American portion.

Arizona just reported a new record high for them of 4878 new cases over the last 25 hours. Even more alarming, 28.3% of their tests came back positive. Damn near a third of the tests they're performing are positive.

Oh hell yeah. I'm making that poo tonight.

I said positive rates are increasing. That is factual. I didn't say positive rates are increasing from all-time highs. These aren't difficult concepts, man.

LOL. Take another look at the graph and the current trend.

No. It absolutely isn't. If that was the case, percentage of positives would be rapidly declining. They're actually increasing in a lot of areas despite more testing.

We're way too interconnected with interstate commerce. That's why we need widespread efforts. Local efforts aren't enough. The vast majority of the cases genetically trace to the original NYC outbreak. Unfortunately, the virus doesn't understand or respect man-made barriers like state lines.

Look at their current case counts versus ours though. Our athletes have a much higher chance of exposure and infection simply because there's a lot more virus in circulation here than there.

I'm not sure what posting about these anecdotal one offs is supposed to accomplish or prove. We've already had the "prevention isn't 100% effective" argument. Meanwhile,

Honestly man, you've already exhibited a lack of understanding of "the numbers". Does it matter if it's a 2-3 week lag or a 4-5 week lag? Who cares what a "couple different guys" say? That's why we largely rely on consensuses. All the graphs and numbers are changing? Ya don't say! It's almost as if we only have a few months of data to work off of. I keep bringing up masks because 1) they're highly effective. 2) they're of minimal inconvenience. 3) Because some of you are acting like there's mass hysteria and widespread outcry for lockdowns and extreme measures when that's not the case. It seems like those who criticized the lockdowns and wanted other methods in reality simply wanted to do nothing and go about life as usual and take an "if they die, they die" approach. It's ironic that a lot of those who I see wanting to take that approach check a lot of boxes on the high risk checklist.

Simple face masks and basic social distancing are very effective means of preventing the spread. That's it, that's all. No hysteria. No lockdowns. No BS. It's well past time for those who don't want to take simple steps to prevent the spread of this disease that is very dangerous to certain segments of our population to suck it up and think of someone other than themselves and their selfishness for prioritizing a small inconvenience for themselves over the lives of others.

My mom wanted to go out to eat last Friday after the governor's mask mandate went out. We agreed to go out and sit on the patio. All the restaurant staff were wearing masks... around their chins. We just got up and walked out.

This is good news. The quickly fading antibodies definitely had me concerned, both from a herd immunity and vaccine standpoint.

Being dense? Yeah, you are.