LinvilleGorge

The only grilling/smoking apparatus I have now is my offset wood burning smoker. That's it. When I want to grill, I have a grill grate I can put in my fire box to cook directly over the fire. I don't do anything with charcoal or anything else at this point. Just straight cooking with a wood fire.

Yeah, hell no. We have Bryce on a rookie deal. The last thing we need to do is take on somebody else's bad QB contract.

There's probably no hard line in the sand I'm just hoping his play doesn't leave it in the gray area. Go out there and be the guy or just suck ass and let us know it's time to move on.

And I don't blame the Panthers for hyping the guy up. It's not like you're going to create hype by putting out the message that your QB is mid at best and you hope the roster and coaching staff can carry him. That's just not how NFL marketing works. When you draft a QB in the 1st round much less #1 overall and much less a massive trade up to #1 overall, you have to be all in on that guy all the way up until you're not. That's just the way it is.

My hope is that if we aren't very good and Bryce plateaus that if Morgan is retained that will be his mentality.

Oh, I know they do. I hope they're right.

It's just the difference between front office mentality and fan mentality. Front offices want to keep their jobs. Mediocre will keep you a job a lot longer than swinging for the fences and striking out. I mean, I get it. I can't be mad about it. It sucks, but in the same situation I'd probably make a lot more conservative decisions than I would vouch for as a fan.

Ultimately, I really do hope that Bruce proves to be the guy. For one, that would be absolutely what's best for the Panthers. Secondly, Bryce really does seem like a truly decent and likeable guy. That's always fun to root for.

At least with Lawrence he has all of the physical tools you could want in a QB. They still really screwed up paying him like the guy he could potentially be rather than the guy he is but I can kinda see how they got duped into that with him. With a guy like Bryce you know his physical upside is limited and he was supposed to be super NFL ready mentally. So if it's not clicking by year three and showing up on the field the red flags need to be flying big time. If he plateaus this year at the same level he was late last year it's going to be time to seriously consider drafting another QB high depending on how the draft board falls.

Yeah, if that was his ceiling that's just not good enough to be the long-term answer but it might be good enough that the Panthers' brass doesn't have the guts to swing again.

This. College is over and done with. We're about to find out what he can do on the NFL stage which as a Panthers fan and not an Arizona Wildcats fan is all I really care about.

Bryce's play after coming back from his benching gives me a glimmer of hope but it's wild that a lot of Panthers fans are acting like he has arrived as a franchise QB because he put up some mediocre stats and basically simply just finally didn't look like a guy who flat out did not belong on an NFL field. I'm anxious to see what he looks like this year and I'm hoping for continued growth but I still haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that he's capable of being a high level starter. Hoping he proves me wrong but honestly the worst case scenario would be that he comes out this year and plays like he did late last year. That's purgatory QB level. The type of guy who organizations get led to believe might be "good enough" but you're not competing for SBs with that level of QB play. I want Bryce to boom or bust this year. Go out there and prove me wrong and look like THAT DUDE or just revert back to looking like he doesn't belong. Don't leave me in purgatory. Let's get an answer to this question one way or the other.

The talking heads liking is all of a sudden is more concerning than comforting. Long time Panthers fans know that this team has historically underperformed when getting hyped.

You can't "ban" someone from doing something contractually. All you can do is create consequences for it within the framework of that contract. It's not like the Panthers could have the law show up and arrest him for riding a four wheeler because he's not allowed to in the contract. LOL

It's not a problem until it's a problem. Pro athletes have to be smart about the risks they take off the field. Non-football injuries create outs in contracts.

A DT playing CB or vice versa would certainly qualify as surprising, that's for sure.

Oh good grief, man. Stop with the semantics bullshit. You clearly made your statement in the flow of a conversation talking about lollygagging in the left lane.

Okay. You can just pretend like you didn't admit to intentionally slowing down to impede traffic in the left hand lane. Intentionally antagonizing someone who is driving aggressively is just living dumb.

Are you in the left lane with cars piling up behind you? If yes, you're lollygagging. If it's an individual aggressive driver and you're actively passing while in the left lane then yes, that driver is being the asshole. Just use the left lane for passing the right lane for riding. It's really a pretty simple social contract. And intentionally hanging out or slowing down on the left lane just to flex your rights and show somebody who's boss makes you an asshole.

It's amazing how someone can't understand that both the person lollygagging in the left lane AND the person tailgating are BOTH being assholes.

Or just don't be an ass and hang out in the left lane. Just use common courtesy. The people who tailgate and be an ass are no better and its not a surprise that a lot of road rage incidents occur when inconsiderate people and assholes cross paths. Just make an effort not to be either. "Not allowing the bully to bully you" is also being an inconsiderate ass to the people behind the "bully" who would also like you to GTFO of the left lane.

Did the Broncos not get that memo?

It's these same type of "there's no law on the book to force me to be a decent person with some consideration for others so I'll drive like a selfish prick" people who are the first people to cry "road rage" when someone blows by them and offers them a one fingered salute. LOL

Yep, this checks out. Very on brand with how you've come across online.