LinvilleGorge

Isn't the majority of Indy's starting DL sitting out today with injury?

Yeah, let's not do things like this.

Hmmm... looks like they're serious about giving Moton looks at LT. Well, either that or Erving is banged up again... which should make them VERY serious about giving Moton looks at LT.

The bust rate argument also doesn't hold up when you trade for an actual draft bust. The failure rate of bust reclamation projects is extremely high.

I just haven't seen this staff out the required urgency into finding a QB. They seem hellbent on trying to find a bargain at QB while building the rest of the roster.

I just think it's a really, REALLY bad move to pass on a guy you had valued as a franchise QB because you made a trade for Sam Darnold. I don't have much faith in this staff figuring it out at the NFL level if that's what we did.

I mean, do they really have to come out and say it?

Nah, I think the Terrace Marshall pick would've been Kellen Mond or Davis Mills instead.

Yeah, it's all Cam's fault we didn't win a SB with him. I mean, he could've done more than just carry our entire offense. Lazy bastard should've been playing defense too! Is he too busy worried about his outfit to to kick and punt?!

Honestly, yeah. I think we still take Horn.

This is where I'm at. You don't pass on a a QB at #8 who you would've taken at #3 due to trading a 2nd, 4th, and 6th for a bust reclamation project. I know that burns people up to refer to Darnold as that, but right now that's what he is.

Well, wouldn't that just be par for the course.

If the rumor was true that Tepper was pushing for Fields and he looks promising while Darnold flops... man, it's gonna start getting really uncomfortably really quickly inside that building.

We'll see, but I've been saying it for awhile. I have legit concerns about our staff's ability to evaluate the QB position. Teddy was baffling. Darnold honestly is too. We keep putting all of our QB eggs in long shot baskets. Hopefully the Darnold one works out, but odds are against it.

Yeah, Fields was a stud in college. That doesn't mean that will translate to the NFL, but to insinuate he didn't live up to expectations just isn't accurate. He was always basically considered the #2 QB in his class behind Lawrence and that's what he proved to be in college too. Honestly, Rhule's teams never excelled on offense, period. His teams were always driven by defense and I'm kinda starting to wonder if Phil Snow isn't the actual engine that drove Rhule's success. That guy impressed me working with what he had last season and I honestly thought that he would prove to be in well over his head at the NFL level. Brady was basically what I assumed. Showed a lot of promise but also showed some room to grow situationally. Snow was the one making chicken salad out of chicken poo. Everyone expected our D to be at or near the bottom of the league, so to finish middle of the pack was significantly overperforming vs. expectations.

Nah, I just think Cam was a gamer. Honestly, he never really looked great in camp or preseason. Same with Jake.

We had this "conversation". You're just trying to re-derail this thread again. Stop. Look at the conversation. It's been cordial. Don't fug it up with this same drivel again. That's all.

I don't know what they're doing, but I don't think it's a positive thing for fan interest.

Listen, thread after thread has featured cordial football conversation before you come barging in full of emotion and feeling attacked by anyone with a differing opinion. You're free to voice your opinion. All I'm telling you to do is knock off the attacks. That's not going to continue. You're not going to keep derailing threads with this stuff.

You really have to stop barging into cordial conversations with your attitude and insults. It's getting old. Everyone here is just talking football, just like they were before you derailed the thread originally with your emotion and inability to comprehend that opinions can differ. Stop derailing threads with this stuff. Understand that you're the cause of it and knock it off.

All in on Sam Darnold?

It's possible. I'm simply saying that if that's what we did then we're really dumb and this current crew is highly unlikely to end up working out. I'm really hoping that's not the case.

If Darnold busts and Fields looks promising, it's going to put a big bullseye on this current staff as to whether or not they have any clue on how to effectively evaluate QBs. To have that situation happen right on the heels of the failed Teddy experiment... oh wee mayne. People who think that Rhule's seat wouldn't at least be starting to warm up in that scenario just aren't being realistic IMO. Honestly, depending on how the rest of the team is performing and what the W-L record looks like, Rhule's seat could be red hot in that scenario. If Darnold busts, IMO I think Rhule and company are probably down to their last swing at solving . the QB position. That's why I think we'll swing big if Darnold does bust. We'll just have to wait and see. We'll have a pretty good indication in a couple of months.