LinvilleGorge

Yes, you savant you. You are one of the exclusive few who have figured out that the Panthers need more receiving weapons for Cam Newton. How did you ever figure this out? It's not like it's one of the most popular topics of conversation about the Panthers both on this forum and in the media.

In terms of historic day one prospects (first three rounds), seems like we're really keying in on OT, DE, and CB. Curiously, I haven't seen much if any talk of visits with WR prospects.

Not just that, but a legit #2 would open up a lot of opportunities for those guys. If you have two legit outside guys to keep the D honest, now you free up a guy like Ginn to go deep against a safety or nickelback. I like that. It helps the OL because it means maybe some guys can actually get open. It helps Olsen because now maybe he gets more LB matchups instead of drawing a DB. It helps the running game because now we have receiving options to keep them honest so that they can't stack the box on every down.

Evidently the draft no longer exists.

This line of thinking really perplexes me. The way I see it, the only sure lock to make the roster at WR is KB. I don't think we signed Ginn just to cut him and I do think we like Brown, but I don't see either of those guys as untouchable. Cotchery's dead money and cap hit are a near wash. We wouldn't lose any significant cap space by cutting him, but we wouldn't really gain anything either. He's definitely not a sure thing to be on the roster. Right now, we have one starting caliber NFL WR and a bunch of #4 WR type guys. If we added a legit #2 WR either through FA or the draft, I know exactly where he'd play - opposite KB.

Ain't nobody gonna agree to take less in order to go to Jacksonville.

Certainly not the secondary FA market WR I hoped we'd be looking into, that's for sure. Gotta try to improve the entire roster, I get that. But, damn. Did we actively try to seek out a WR that might actually be slower than Jerricho Cotchery?

Now this would actually make sense. Your bottom of the roster WRs usually contribute on special teams.

This. When I first heard the trade, I thought it was Foles for Bradford and the Rams' 2nd rounder. I thought that was a pretty decent deal for the Eagles. But, once the full details came out? LOL! My poor buddy is a huge Eagles fan, every bit as big of an Eagles fan as I am a Panthers fan, and he texted me when the details were still murky, "The more and more that comes out about this trade the more I feel like Chip got screwed." Hours after the full details became available he texted, "I'm still stunned at badly the Rams used Chip. You guys should probably call him up. Maybe he'd give you a 3rd and 4th for Cotchery."

Chip got RAPED. He gave up Foles, a 4th this year and a 2nd next year for Bradford and a conditional pick that maxes out at a 3rd rounder.

When Gettleman goes car shopping... I'm just having fun with this now.

Hey, I defended him with Ginn and Oher and not going after the top shelf FAs. But, this guy? Cotdamn.

Dave said he was gonna be shopping at Target. Dave is actually shopping here.

I'm fine with bringing him in to compete, but better be a near minimum contract.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jarrett-boykin?id=2532799 4.74 40 Overview: Boykin is an athletic receiver with a ton of size. He is a slow mover who is not taking the top off any NFL defenses, but his long strides make him look fluid in the open field running intermediate routes. He has good hands and a large catch radius to go up and get the ball. Teams needing a red-zone threat and a receiver who can snag the ball on timing routes will consider him a fifth-round talent. Strengths: Boykin is quick off the line and is good to release outside and stem his routes, but can also get back on top of a defender when running vertically. He is flexible and can drop his weight with ease to break and separate from cornerbacks. He is a good option in short and intermediate routes and a catcher who can adjust to the ball well to bring in nearly every ball thrown his way. He is physical downfield and makes his presence felt on the edge in the run game. Weaknesses: Boykin is a slow receiver who struggles to make plays happen deep. He can catch the ball from anywhere and can be an option even when covered, but will struggle to run against NFL corners and could potentially get blanketed. He is not elusive after the catch by any stretch of the imagination, though he can break arm tackles from smaller cornerbacks. Yikes. Man, you almost have to start to wonder if this is what Gettleman wants in his WRs. Rivera has spoken openly this offseason about needing more speed and this is the WR we're bringing in for a visit...

Ban. I've had NFLN on in the background all day long. I don't think I've heard the Panthers so much as mentioned once.

this has been you all day long: If I was this negative about sports, I'd just quit watching.

The fact that we don't have a beat writer worth a damn means that there's probably a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that we fans never catch wind of. Just because the national media doesn't report something doesn't mean we didn't inquire. Who's to say Gettleman didn't reach out to Smith's agent to see what they were looking for and upon hearing, simply said, "Well then, best of luck."

He'd almost certainly take the $20M.

The only thing that really matters in an NFL contract is the guaranteed money. Agents know that. Informed players know that. Informed fans know that. If they offered $20M guaranteed and we were only willing to do say $12M guaranteed, he's signing with them, even if the overall "value" of the contracts were the same.

Back to back playoff berths for the first time in franchise history and you act like we're gutting the joint like the Saints are doing.

Bersin was never our #2 WR. Harvin is a locker room disaster. It'll take locker room leaders like Brady and Belichick to even have a chance of keeping that guy in check. I love Cam and (to a lesser extent) Rivera, but they don't have the type of clout around the league that Brady and Belichick have. Not even close. There's a reason why despite all his talent Harvin can't stick anywhere.

Their franchise QB is 37. Our franchise QB is 25. They know they're likely to go through a bit of a rebuilding period soon, so they're probably a little more willing to take chances. We're trying to build a perennial contender for the next decade. In other words, we're trying to become what the Pats have been under Brady/Belichick while the Pats are trying to hang onto it for another season or two.

Doesn't matter, made it there. Funny how the last two 7-9 teams that made the playoffs both won a playoff game.

I have no idea what we're doing if we don't at least inquire.