LinvilleGorge

People would complain about your cow college... if anyone actually cared enough to complain.

I know nothing about lacrosse except that they kicked me off the team because I was told I could hit people like in football. That was not true. They didn't appreciate my Rodney Harrison impersonations. But fug dook.

I think there's some colleges out there that would strongly disagree on that regarding Kiffin.

It's really, really hard to top Kiffin's Raiders stint or McDaniels' Broncos stint which was low key every bit as much of a trainwreck of dysfunction as Kiffin's Raiders trainwreck.

I'd be surprised if the Falcons trade him within the NFC.

Gase is basically what would've happened if Mike Shula would've gotten a head coaching gig.

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Right. They put swinging doors on the minivan so they could sell it to you at a marked up price as an SUV. Mechanically, that thing is a minivan.

Well, that wouldn't be a good sign. I guess we'll see.

Yeah, me too. I just think Robby will be valuable this year and give Darnold his best chance of recovering from his likely shellshocked state. We've hitched out wagon to Darnold. Give him his best chance, because honestly if he flops I think Rhule's seat is going to start warming up.

I'd rather have him and his familiarity with Darnold this year, then take the likely 3rd round comp pick.

I don't think the Panthers are "hiding" anything. We liked the option of trading a future 2nd and a couple of late rounders for Darnold better than drafting Fields at #8. Time will tell if that turns out to be smart or not. We'll see if the President of the Sam Darnold Fan Club follows him to his next stop if it doesn't work out here. We already know MrScot will convince himself that somehow this was still part of the Panthers' grand plan and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

I think you've already lost. You bailed on your team to follow a bust. That's about the weirdest bandwagon hopping I've encountered.

Did we trade the pick? Ah! See there! Your game isn't hard to play. It isn't very nuanced.

That doesn't fit the narrative. Therefore, it's a rumor. Didn't you read the "report"? Delusional. Did you know that Sam Darnold is "basically a rookie"? I mean, that's the "report".

When you resort to hanging your hat on a typo, you've tapped out.

I don't see it as a low-ball, it's just what we were willing to offer. We were probably hoping the Niners would low-ball. Honestly, we were always a long shot to land Stafford. To their credit, the Lions actually wanted to do right by him after botching it with Barry Sanders and Megatron. Objectively, the Niners are just a much better situation than we are.

The reports said the room was divided. There were people in the organization who wanted Fields. Some felt he was a generational talent. The pro-Darnold faction won out. But, everything is always black and white with you. "Black" being your take and "white" being literally anything to the contrary.

I just didn't take it for the gospel you did. There was waaaaaay too much talk about a pending Watson trade for there to be no smoke. You just cling desperately to sources that confirm your take. Those are "reports". Everything else is "rumors". That's called "confirmation bias". We all have it, you're just completely blind to yours. Meanwhile, you're in here lockstep with the president and lone member of "The Official International Sam Darnold Fan Club". What should that be telling you?

I didn't say that we panicked. I only pondered that we might have. What I know for sure is that the team would spin any love we made as if their plan worked out all along. I mean, that's just what you have to do. But we definitely made a big offer for Stafford. By all accounts we were going to be all in on Watson talks. We definitely reached out to Miami about #3 before it became obvious the Jets were taking Wilson. At best, Darnold was our 4th option.

What's hilarious is bailie on your team to follow a bust of a QB. I get the feeling that you probably went all in on Darnold to the point of being afraid to show your face around Jets fans.

LOL! Maybe I was wrong about the only hard headed part. Yeah man, we offered a multiple pick package including #8 overall for Stafford while Sam Darnold was our plan all along. That's hilarious.

Where did he say anything other than Darnold was a fallback plan. The only delusion here is arguing that Darnold was our guy all along while we made a much bigger trade offer for Stafford. C'mon man. You're hard headed but you're not stupid.

Top 10 wouldn't be a shock IMO. Our best defenders last year were young and still improving. On paper, our biggest weakness was CB and we made some serious moves there. I don't expect an elite D, but borderline top 10? Yeah, I can see that.

Reports are gospel when you desperately want to believe them. Of course the team is going to spin it that Darnold was their guy all along but actions speak louder than words and their actions showed they had several options they preferred over Darnold.