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Yes. Dumping that money into Teddy was an idiotic move. Not just Lawrence, but Zach Wilson too. All we did was spend money against the cap we'll never get back on a guy everyone should've known wasn't good enough.

We'll be looking at camp cuts I'm sure.

Yes. That exactly what I said we should done if we were moving on from Cam. Signing Teddy Bridgewater to a significant contract is a lack of understanding of the value of the QB position.

Why? He signed off on the signing of Teddy Bridgewater. A guy who had never shown the talent to be a high level NFL QB. At least Darnold has the talent. Whether he can put it all together or not remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if Rhule didn't have some eye opening moments with Teddy last year. It's not hard for me to envision a scenario where they're sitting there breaking down film with Teddy and pointing out an open receiver and asking Teddy how he missed this guy and hearing in reply, "Coach, I saw him I just can't make that throw."

BIG difference between college and NFL in this regard. The much more even talent parity in the NFL compared to college puts a bigger influence on the QB position and play calling compared to college. The Alabamas, Clemsons, Ohio States, Oklahomas, etc. of college are head and shoulders more talented than their competition in college week in and week out. That just doesn't happen in the NFL. Rhule made a living in college beating unranked teams. He had an abysmal rating vs. top 25 teams. I'm hopeful about Rhule, but I'm not even close to pretending that he's a slam dunk to succeed in the NFL.

Rhule might be starting to get it. It's a QB driven league, period. You either have a QB who allows you to compete or you don't have a chance at winning championships. There is no gray area. Gray area is purgatory. Hopefully Sam works out but I'd he doesn't, we're gonna swing BIG on our next QB.

Over? Jackson got smoked so bad I didn't even notice him on the first viewing. It was only upon the second viewing that I saw him five yards behind hilariously mistiming his jump.

The final straw for Teddy in Carolina was him throwing the staff under the bus for "getting the play call in late" on that play where he airmailed it over DJ wide open in the endzone. There was a noted change in the tone toward Teddy from the organization from that point on. Once he showed that type of lack of accountability and willingness to blame others for his blatant error... yeah, it was over. He actually said he would've checked to a running play. He admitted he would've checked out of a play that led to a wide open receiver in the endzone for what should've been an easy TD. LOL!

I hope.

For the first time in a long time we might be forced to actually release an NFL caliber receiver.

Just too early to say. I mean, there isn't even a lot to watch from the college level.

I don't see Marshall in the Andre Johnson model. Andre Johnson could've subbed in at LB. He was built like Jeremy Chinn.

Dez Bryant? Andre Johnson? Easy now, y'all. Let's tap the brakes just a tad.

Gets a speeding ticket for going 91mph heading to the first day of camp and now this? Seems like he's prone to great decisions...

We can't get stuck in Hurney/Rivera mindsets. That's your LT right there.

Same rate FROM, not TO. Like I said, breakthrough cases are still fairly uncommon. But those breakthrough cases are proving to be just as contagious TO others as unvaccinated cases. I'm honestly not sure what part of this is giving you trouble. It seems really easy to understand. And you statement about the vaccines being worthless was just blatantly false seeing that virtually everyone actually hospitalized with COVID is unvaccinated. Preventing serious illness is definitely not worthless. @Fryfan, do you want to have a go at this? I'm at a loss.

You seriously think that says that the vaccines don't prevent COVID infection? You're really sticking with that? Someone's stubborn alright...

@Ja Rhule I already broke this down for you.

Are you illiterate? Read that again. It does not say what you think it does.

Nope.

Then that's what you wanted to see because that's not what that said.

I'm having Ginn flashbacks.

That's not at all what that says. Spreads FROM vaccinated people as readily, not TO. Breakthrough cases are still uncommon and the vaccines are proving to do a great job of preventing serious illness in those breakthrough cases. All they're saying is that the individuals with breakthrough cases are just as contagious as the unvaccinated. Meanwhile, the percentage of COVID patients in hospitals that are unvaccinated are very near the 100% mark. That's a far cry from "useless".

So... basically the same way he was treated in Charlotte last year? When Teddy is your QB, you've waved the white flag. It's time to talk draft. I hated the trade for Darnold too, but at least he does have the physical talent. We'll see if he can put it together between the ears but at least there is some reasonable path to success with Darnold. I simply did not see one at all with Teddy.

Honestly, it seemed to me that DJ ran kind of a lazy route there. Didn't seem to be going full speed. The pass was a touch high, but if he was going full speed it wouldn't have been too far out in front. You don't want those slants thrown high though. That's a recipe for INTs and/or getting your receiver lit up.