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The key difference is that the Steelers tend to actually make the right decision to start with.

It's all terrifying. Tepper seems every bit as clueless as an owner as Rhule does as a coach.

If Tepper couldn't ascertain that based on Hurney's history then we're completely fuged.

Hurney had hype when Tepper bought the team? Who was hyping Marty Hurney in 2018? Honestly, I just don't think Tepper had the ability to evaluate football people. He let an absolute moron in Hurney sell him on the idea that he was one of the NFL's great drafters () and then he let a college coach from a C level program sell him on his culture and program building abilities. Yikes.

So why wasn't Hurney fired as soon as he bought the team? Surely such a brilliant analytical mind was able to quickly determine that Hurney was a liability.

The fact that Rhule is still trying to sell that his culture is working despite these glaring examples that it obviously isn't tells me that he's run out of actual ideas. He's gonna lean into the same platitudes that got him hired to try to justify why he shouldn't be fired.

Basically the equivalent of a standard middle class person having a nice dinner out. That's Tepper's financial impact of firing Matt Rhule and eating $50M. Or to put in even more relevant terms, attending a Panthers game with decent seats and having a couple of beers in BOA.

I really hope Tepper isn't buying into this bullshit. We're building a culture alright. Unfortunately, it's a culture of losing and zero accountability and pointing fingers. The culture we're building is absolutely toxic.

If Rhule and company are still here then none of this matters. We're fuged as long as they're here.

If we think there's a potential franchise QB available, take him. Period. If you need a QB, that's your biggest need always. If not, then my preference would be the best OL available. If we don't think there's an OL available worth the pick, TRADE DOWN. Not having a 2nd and 3rd round pick this year HURTS. Honestly, if there's no one on the board who we think is a potential franchise QB or a potential franchise LT, I'm heavily entertaining any and all trade offers. My biggest wish though is that Rhule and company are gone. If they aren't, all of this is moot. They'll continue to set this franchise back until fired.

The majority of the fanbase has checked out. Most of those who are still watching are just watching to see Cam or because they have a morbid curiosity and can't look away from the trainwreck. An honest appraisal of myself is that it's a bit of both for me.

Has anyone improved since Rhule was hired? Chinn showed up ready to go on day one and has pretty much disappeared this season. It feels like everyone is regressing.

How would we even notice the difference?

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. The primary issue in this regard isn't the player roster. Do the same thing with the coaches and their years of NFL experience and I think you'll find the root of the problem.

Then you have Daley talking about what's "not his job". I just think it's an utter lack of an accountability due to an utter lack of leadership. I think everyone knows this situation is unsalvageable and it's manifesting in an "every man for himself" attitude.

You're not lying. This really does feel like rock bottom simply because none of us have any idea whether Rhule is actually going to be fired and pretty much no league "insiders" are predicting it. We can see the trainwreck this organization is but we have no idea whether or not the light at the tunnel is visible. Rhule ain't it.

Rhule is clueless at the NFL level. He needs to get his ass back to college before he completely tarnishes his image and has to take a non-P5 level job.

Just look at the comments that are starting to be made by our players. There's no covering it up now. There's zero accountability within this organization right now and zero leadership. Rhule has to go. Best of luck to the next guy trying to clean up this colossal mess he's made. Damn Tepper... you blew the fug out of that call.

I was so glad we drafted this guy but like everyone else on our roster, he's regressing on the field and like everyone else on our roster not named Cam Newton or Sam Darnold he seems to be unable to take accountability for it and wants to shift blame elsewhere. Hmmm... wonder if there might be a coaching/leadership issue?

No, Rhule needs to be fired. Period.

We're doomed until this man is fired. Not doomed to typical Panthers mediocrity. Doomed to being a doormat and laughing stock.

Here's the issue. Put yourself in the shoes of good NFL coordinator candidates with other options. Are you really going to come to work for a guy who everyone knows will be on one of the hottest seats in the league next year (assuming we would retain Rhule here) with a massive question mark at QB and nearly the entire OL or would you go somewhere with more job security? Honestly, it kinda feels like you're just setting yourself up for failure. Which is why Rhule needs to be fired.

Year one and year two in the same gif.

We turned it over three times and we dropped three INTs. Both were critical.

The opposite is true of the overall metro areas which is what I'm talking about when I talk about a "city". Denver is a small geographical city surrounded by massive suburbs. The second largest city in Colorado is a Denver suburb. Geographically, the city of Charlotte is twice the size of the city of Denver.