LinvilleGorge

You're not gonna turnover the entire locker room in the off-season. If you lose the trust of the whole team you're basically cooked. It's just a matter of if you get fired after this season or after another lost season.

It's cope from a believer. But if you drop the first and last 15 seconds or so he told a lot of truth in between he just can't allow himself to see it yet. It still has to be someone else's fault that Bryce is failing.

He's getting close. He's acknowledging that Bryce's footwork is complete trash, that he's not seeing coverage, that lots of balls are coming out late and not on time, and that he's still throwing up hospital balls. But since he's an admitted fan and believer in Bryce it still can't be Bryce's fault yet.

From the fan perspective, I agree. From a locker room perspective, you're gonna lose the locker room continuing to play a wholly ineffective QB. You lose your ability to hold anyone accountable and you're basically telling the locker room you're not even trying.

We all just realize that with Bryce the window for error is so small. Every missed opportunity for a big play is massive because there's only gonna be a couple a game.

Next year would be the end of his rookie contract minus picking up his 5th year option.

If he keeps looking like trash, we should try to trade him for anything we can get and when no one bites just cut him. $12M is too much for a backup QB with no future.

This. Honestly Bryce handcuffs and offense. Defenses are just playing bland, vanilla concepts against us because they can. They don't feel pressured to force anything. Just focus on filling gaps to stop the run and play tight coverage because you're not worried about the field being stretched and let Bryce make mistakes. I've said it over and over but Bryce basically turns the entire field into the redzone because we can't threaten the defense vertically.

There's a reason why proven QBs - even mid-level ones - get PAID. NFL QBs are hard to find and if you have one you can compete. If you don't you can't. It's pretty much that simple.

Peruse through this and it'll start making sense. Evidently this guy is dyed in the wool Bryce stan. It's a hilarious scroll. https://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40FantasyBandits bryce&t=aAeFPOsbV2dSTDCZXJeshQ&s=09

Recruiters? This isn't college. Not sure we could win there either though to be fair.

With a noodle arm. That part is every bit as limiting as his physical size, hell maybe even more so.

I'm saying Bryce sucks.

Why would he? What has Bryce done on the field to gain trust? Even if he did a great job in the off-season and through camp he has now gone out there on the field in a game that matters and looked like absolute dog poo. Again. That has happened over and over again during his brief career. How can you have trust in a guy that does that? Ultimately trust has to be earned and I can't see what Bryce has done on the field in games that matter to earn it.

To me a "drop" is a perfectly thrown ball to an open receiver, not a contested catch, not a ball that could've been caught with a Herculean effort, etc. There's a difference between a "drop" and a ball that should've been caught and a ball that maybe could've been caught. Not even Bryce's mom would've watched that game and counted 10 drops. That's just an absurd argument to make.

The guy was a #1 overall pick that we traded a fortune to get. When you make that move you realize it's going to create other roster holes and you're betting that this guy is going to carry the team through those holes. That's the bet you're making to make that move. Then you still have people complaining that we don't have a roster of all pros everywhere else to carry the guy. Just stop. We made a terrible bet and we lost the house on it. It is what it is.

Simply running to the first down marker instead of throwing it to a waiting Jags defender on his first INT. Not terribly under throwing the deep ball to Renfrow that should've been a walk in TD. Not sailing the ball over Renfrow's head on the sideline that would've been a big play with a decent throw and another possible TD with a good throw. Throwing the ball to an open Sanders in the endzone instead of sailing it 20 feet over everyone's head leading to a turnover on downs. There were plays to be made and Bryce simply didn't make them. Kinda the main story of his entire career.

Good luck convincing the handful of remaining Bryce excuse factories of that.

Nobody would care about this if he was playing well. I think the clips that sum up Bryce the best are the litany of clips that show him playing like dog poo. That's all I really care about Watch the jumbotron looking like a middle schooler all you want as long as you deliver when it's go time.

If we just want to look at the simplest of passes, those thrown five air yards or less, Young completed just 56% of attempts (#29) with a 13% success rate (#29), -0.54 EPA per attempt, and a mere 2.8 yards per attempt (#27). Bryce isn't "fine" at any aspect of NFL QBing.

No, it wasn't solely his fault. It's just that his decision and execution ultimately ensured the failure. He gave us no opportunity to succeed. You can't sling the ball through the endzone in that situation. You have to put a ball into the field of play and hope to get lucky... or just throw it to the open TE. That would be the preferable solution but we're talking about Bryce Young here so just give me a jumpball in the endzone. Anything is better than slinging it through the endzone. Hell, even if you get sacked maybe you fumble and keep the ball alive.

Yeah, he did. But what absolutely killed any chance of success is that our QB panicked and sailed the ball through the endzone uncatchable. That's why the focus is on that. Why do we need to do all these mental gymnastics to keep trying to come up with excuses to cover for the worst starting QB in the NFL over the past three years? What else do we kneed to see from him to admit he ain't ir? You don't trade up to #1 overall to draft a QB that needs everything to go perfectly to succeed. You're doing that because you think you're drafting a guy who can carry an offense.

I'm not trying to blame him I'm just saying he probably regrets not being very aggressive about it

Yeah, I acknowledged as much above. I'm just saying Canales probably regrets not being very forceful with a push to upgrade the spot. He should've went to Tepper and just been like "Look, I know Bryce played better after coming back from the benching but at the same time we gotta protect ourselves here and have a better option behind him if he reverts back to his old ways. At this point in his career Dalton is simply not it. We need to look for a backup who can actually PLAY if we need it. Going into his third season Bryce doesn't need a mentor with a clipboard anymore. We need a PLAYER there."

I honestly don't know how much of it was on them and how much Tepper may have been involved. I'm sure after Bryce came back and looked decent last year Tepper was probably all in again. Not sure if he was willing to allow a legit backup that might actually push Bryce or if he was wanting to stick with a mentor holding a clipboard as backup. I really wish we'd made a move for Howell with him getting traded for peanuts. This wouldn't been a good opportunity for him to get another shot starting because I'm not sure he's long for the league as a backup. I just don't think he has a backup's mentality.