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It's something that has to be seriously looked into and evaluated. The NFL is going to bring a whole new level of stress and there are going to be some inevitable struggles on the field. How will he deal with it? It's something that has to be asked of every prospect. Virtually everyone considered as a potential first rounder has the talent to succeed if everything goes right. Nothing ever goes completely right.

Yep. If the vets suck, do you really have anything to lose by playing the rookies? Especially if you're out of contention. It was just baffling to watch.

The one that I quoted.

Something that the "Tepper isn't going to just suddenly start making bad business deals" crew conveniently forgets. Tepper is petty as fug and he's willing to lose on the financial side if it satisfies his pettiness.

His good measurables that others are hanging their hats on made me even more down on him. They don't show up on the field. He basically plays like a more mobile Mac Jones. Throws outside the numbers in the NFL are going to be off the table. He can't get the ball out there against NFL DBs without getting them jumped for a pick six.

He was also playing in an offensive system last seen when football was played in leather helmets. That's the huge factor the folks reaching to compare a Pickett to him consistently miss.

Many of us realized at the time just how disastrous that meaningless win was while others celebrated that every win is a good one and relished on the wonderful winning culture it was helping to build. Well, how 'bout now?

Pickett had one good year when he was the oldest guy on the field granted a fifth year by special circumstances. He's not proven for poo. If it's Pickett or Corral, I hope like hell it's Corral.

I wasn't talking specifically for us. But the NFL has changed. Teams that feel they're in a window to make a SB run with their roster are getting a LOT more aggressive to capitalize on it in recent years.

Mainly just the alcohol stuff. He's had issues with alcohol and depression in the past. Not a deal breaker for everyone, but should be for us. If you don't have issues with alcohol and/or depression prior to being involved with Tepper and Rhule's Panthers, you probably will soon.

Fans don't make trades. And fans of good teams always seem to overrate their rosters. Just think back to how confident we were through Cam's prime years.

The Browns should be trying to move up. They just landed Deshaun Watson but their WR corps is basically Amari Cooper and... and well, that's it.

I wanted to make the huge move to trade up for Burrow after we hired Joe Brady.

Let me know when the any of the top 10 paid players in the NFL aren't QBs.

Yep.

Rhule's best realistic shot of getting a 4th year is probably showing improvement as a team with a promising rookie QB. Win 7-8 games with a promising rookie QB on a team that improves down the stretch and competed and I could see him getting a 4th year.

It also means Tepper sided with Rhule. If he still thinks Rhule needs to be piloting this ship then he must not think much of Fitts.

If Rhule still thinks he's smarter than everyone else then he's even dumber than I thought

I disagree. On paper, the edge rushers and OTs are strong. There's also potentially two top 10 CBs and there may be a WR in there too. Those are premium positions.

Trade down to acquire more draft capital. Take a QB later in the 1st. I don't think this QB class is as bad as folks are saying or that this OT class is as special as they are saying. Everything draft related seems to get hugely exaggerated.

Yes. Another cast off vet QB leading to another top 10 pick needs to result in a total house cleaning.

We have to stop throwing resources and cast off veteran QBs. If we do it again then we've learned nothing and it's time to part with the architects of the repeated mistakes.

If this crew goes with Mayfield or Jimmy G and fails again, they all need to go. Fitterer included. Clean the whole house.

You'd think that failing twice with the level of vets he can attract would be a wakeup call.

I'll be shocked if Pickett doesn't bust hard. The guy just isn't that good. Absolute ceiling IMO is Kirk Cousins. Floor is David Carr.