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I still haven't seen anything credible that we have any real interest in pursuing this. I think the Browns were anticipating recouping some decent draft capital to make up for the haul they gave up to acquire Watson but that is looking like a significant miscalculation.

If we suck again this season he shouldn't.

Don't forget pouncing on the opportunity to pay third tier OL in the opening moments of free agency paving the way to fielding arguably the worst OL in the NFL. Oh, and trading a 3rd round pick for a bust of a former top 10 pick CB. Oh, and extending Robby Anderson and paying him like a top tier NFL WR. Oh, and trading a good starting LB for a late round draft pick to field trash at LB. I'm all for Fitterer following Rhule right on our the door when Tepper is ready to admit this collosal mistake.

We're a farm team. Other teams pluck us of our talent and send guys who aren't working out for them down to us for continued development in the way of playing time where they can continue to evaluate from afar. That's what Tepper has turned us into.

Maybe he and Robby could get in a fight during camp. I know who I'd be rooting for!

I think what Rapaport might be saying here is basically, "Look, you'd have to be an absolute moron, the most moronic moron in the NFL to trade for Baker Mayfie... oh wait, I just figured it out!"

Honestly, this makes a lot of sense. Baker has flashed enough ability in the NFL that I wouldn't have wanted to completely mortgage my franchise on a massive trade for Deshaun Watson unless something like this was stone cold fact. The reality that no other team seems to be so much as even entertaining trading anything for him practically confirms it.

Agreed. We took Moron with the last pick in the 2nd round. That's a lot more tolerable than high in the 1st.

There seems to be a massive gulf between reality and Robby's perception of his own value to an NFL team. Given his cap hit, Robby Anderson is a net negative. I get it, there's a long history of NFL WRs being divas, but most of those divas are HOF candidate caliber. Robby is on his way to becoming Freddie Mitchell. I'm just waiting for him to thank his hands for being so great.

I'd be okay with moving Robby for whatever we could get. There are players in the NFL who have the clout to put pressure on their team to make certain moves. Robby Anderson isn't even close to being one.

Honestly, I don't think TS is wrong. Penning is extremely raw and needs a lot of work. Do we really trust this staff to develop raw talent? Like Willis, there's a lot to like but they need to land in the right spot and situation. We are neither.

If we draft Pickett #6 overall, Rhule (and possibly Fitterer) get fired and the new brain trust is scouting QBs again in next year's draft with a top 10 (honestly likely top 5) draft pick in their back pocket and trying to figure out what we can manage to salvage in trade return for Pickett. Do you really want a more athletic version of Kyler Trask? In the top 10? He's the type of QB prospect we should be looking at with our 2nd round pick if we still actually had it.

I also wish that was true. Plenty hung around to become Huddle trolls and thinly veiled racists.

I wish that was actually true.

Last year's Lamborghinis played like Volkswagens.

Oh lord, the "Sam Darnold is only 23 years old!" rationalization.

Both sides want a good QB. I really don't care which variety we have but the NFL really seems to be evolving toward pocket passers with mobility.

Same thing in Buffalo. Jim Kelly was already on the roster. He drafted a prototypical 6'5" cannon armed pocket statue with a room temperature IQ here in Carolina in Kerry Collins and the results were predictably middling.

Here's a news flash for everyone trying to crown Bill Polian... he was low key a terrible drafter.

And somehow everyone is whiffing on this on the Howell evaluation.

Swap the QBs in that game and Pitt wins by 3 TDs.

Caleb Love is the last big question. If he comes back this will have some serious 2017 vibes. We'll definitely miss Manek but our depth should be leaps and bounds better next year. I think Puff Johnson is ready to step into that role.

Ideally we trade down. I fully expect it.