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The entertainment would come at our expense.

I'll buy one of those smashed racoon asshole sandwiches for him. Maybe the resulting dysentery would be a viable diet plan.

If we can get anything for him ship him off. It's over. Throw in some raccoon taint sandwiches to sweeten the deal.

The guy looked awful except for against our camp bodies. Everyone was ready to crown him when he played well against guys too terrible to make our roster (after looking mediocre against our primary backups). He's not that good. His NFL skill set is very limited. Classic good college QB who didn't project well to the NFL but because of his daddy and the hype people got it all twisted.

Chuba would be cap hit hell to trade. Honestly we don't have much. Thielen was about it. Maybe Moton if we hadn't extended him. If I could get anything for Bryce or XL they'd be gone.

I'm fine with taking late round flyers on athletes. I mean, you get into the 6th and 7th you're basically talking about guys with the measurables minus the production or guys with the production minus the measurables. You're just trying to find guys who can carve out a role to make your roster.

It couldn't look worse. My concern is that if we stick with Bryce it probably means another full reset is coming. We gotta give Canales and Morgan a chance because we're going to be shopping in the garbage bin again if we replace them. Let's give them every chance we can before we go down to the convenience store and buy more scratch off lottery ticket ass hires.

The Panthers are just an afterthought at this point. Just a run of the mill bottom feeder. There's just nothing interesting to cover from a national standpoint.

That's why I'm advocating for looking everywhere for potential upgrades. Free agency, trade market, draft. We have a bust of a starter and an over the hill pushing 40 backup. We need QBs. Multiple QBs. Leave no stone unturned. We got ourselves into this mess going all in on a savior.

Sure looked like it was trending that way and that Browns draft room absolutely did not look like the people in that room made the call to draft him. Rich Eisen even called it out live. LOL

Word is he told both the Ravens and Eagles not to draft him because he didn't want to be a backup.

If I'm the coach I'm going ape poo right now. I'm ready to stomp into the owners office like "Are you happy now? Was the publicity worth it? This kid is putting me in a spot where I HAVE to cut him if I'm going to maintain any respect on the locker room. At the very least he's getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team. That's the least I can get away with."

And that right there is why he was plummeting down draft boards. If you're evaluated as not likely to be a starter and probably a career backup this is exactly what you DON'T want out of that backup QB role. The near unanimous word out of teams that interviewed him was that he came off as incredibly cocky and entitled and wasn't at all prepared for the interview. This kid really needs to stop sabotaging himself. I thought falling into the late 5th might be a wake up call but doesn't look like it.

I'm not sure why people are surprised. The football people in Cleveland picked Gabriel over Sanders because they thought he was the better prospect for them. They looked like they wanted to crawl under a table as the Sanders pick was being announced because that pick probably wasn't made by them.

It's so obvious that the offense is handcuffed by the QB position. Some folks complain about everyone constantly complaining about Bryce but he plays the most important position in the game and when your limitations are hamstringing the entire offense you're cooked. Bryce is not the reason special teams had an awful day and he's not the reason our LBs suck but he is the primary limiting factor of our offense and that is consistently putting our already had defense in terrible positions. The QB spot is our biggest roster issue. It's just that simple. No, having a legit QB wouldn't fix all of our problems but it sure would create hope and lead to a much different overall fan vibe.

Accurate. No one wants a distraction from the backup QB position, real or perceived. Late stage Cam, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Kaepernick, Shedeur it's all the same reasoning. People just have to create alternate narratives. The reality is they weren't seen as starters and we're seen as guys who would bring more distraction than they were worth.

You want to "save" Shedeur by "rescuing" him from the Browns by bringing him to Carolina? I feel like I've seen this movie before...

Something has to give on QB pay. 17 of the top 20 and all of the top 11 contracts in the NFL are QB contracts. Damn near every starter in the league that isn't on a rookie deal is making salary cap destroying money. How many of those guys are actually delivering the level of play that warrants that? I would strongly argue that unless you have a legit MVP caliber guy you're better off investing heavily in the rest of the roster and creating a great place for a guy in a rookie contract to thrive but that's the fan perspective that wants to compete for SBs. From the front office/coaching staff standpoint they're trying to keep their jobs so it's safer to pay the hell out of that mid-tier guy than it is to roll the dice on being great. Yeah, that mid-tier guy's contract is probably gonna catch up to you and make life tough in a couple of years but that's a problem to deal with in a couple of years we gotta worry about the now right now. That's the piece that some of these media guys advocating for picking up Bryce's option aren't grappling with. You'd be talking about spending nearly 10% of next year's cap on Bryce Young. Let me say that louder for people in the back... NEARLY 10% OF NEXT YEAR'S CAP ON BRYCE YOUNG. You absolutely cannot do that.

We're to the point that our only hope is horse poo luck. That Tepper hits on a scratch off lottery ticket that these third rate candidates that are willing to work for him are and that we fall backasswards into a QB. Hoping for organizational competency at this point just isn't logical. We just have to get really damn lucky.

I've said it numerous times but I honestly think we're to the point that we can't get anyone who has other comparable options or has reasonable expectations of being a top candidate within the next year or two and I honestly think the last GM and HC searches we conducted we conducted knowing that because it didn't seem like we even seriously pursued hotter candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if we touched base with agents and were basically told thanks but no thanks.

I mean, it's predictable. You have an owner who has churned through 7 head coaches in as many years and we look as bad as ever on the field. Seems like folks are going into self preservation mode without the realization that going at each other in the press is an absolutely fuging terrible look that will probably be considered regarding future roles when they inevitably end up getting fired. If I'm their agent I'm advising them to be aware of who they're working for. Any day in the office could be the day this guy throws a fit and rage fires you. Don't sabotage your future opportunities trying to salvage this one.

I could just imagine the conversation with his agent... "Listen Dave (Tepper), you've been firing coaches left and right. There's a lot of hesitation out there in the coaching ranks that they're not gonna be given a fair shot here either in leeway or in the type of control that these roles generally entail within the organization. For my guy to seriously consider this job you're going to have to at least show long-term commitment in the contract. If you do what you've been doing and yank the rug after a year or two we need to be compensated for the damage done to my client's career track."

holy poo, I forgot about that LOL! Tepper had to give a guy that was getting no other HC consideration a 6 year contract to get him to fall on that grenade. Damn...

Exactly. It's absolutely a super high stress job. I don't doubt that one bit. But our guys definitely seem to wear it way worse than the other guys. That tells you something. The only other guy right now that's comparable is Mike McDaniels down in Miami. That dude's wearing it this year.

Per usual with Tepper's Panthers the entire approach feels wrong. Tepper wants in on all the stuff he should be seeing himself out of and then wants to be hands off on the stuff that he needs to be stepping in on.