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IMO he has always looked good on the rare occasion that the Bears' OL has showed up. He doesn't handle a lot of pass rush pressure well but if they think that would improve with Caleb Williams who holds the ball for days, well...

Not if Fields has more games like last night.

Hurts? Carr? Tannehill? You cannot be serious. Bryce is roughly on par with Mac Jones IMO.

Exactly. When you're trading to #1 overall to draft a QB and you only have one proven legit NFL WR, that's a guy who should basically be completely off limits in terms of the trade package. You're mortgaging the future of the franchise on the development of this QB. Act like it.

If Fields truly does turn the corner they're going to flip that pick for another massive haul next year.

Yeah, Tepper's eyes seem set on Germany. Makes sense. Biggest economy in Europe.

Why would all those opposing fans care if we fire Fitterer or if Tepper sells the team?

Bryce's arm is "average" meaning his arm I stronger than half the QBs in the NFL. Where are those QBs hiding because I haven't seen them.

I was onboard with trading CMC. I still think it was a decent trade we've just squandered the assets we acquired. I was never onboard with trading our only legit NFL WR as part of the package to get our QB. In no universe did that make any logical sense whatsoever.

Who are the NFL QBs with weaker arms based on what we've seen at the NFL level so far? I'm genuinely curious.

Beginning? We all blamed the idiotic moves on Matt Rhule but Matt Rhule is gone now and if anything the roster moves have gotten even more idiotic.

Yeah, I think 2-2. 3-1 if all went perfect but 2-2 is most likely. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that Dalton is Peyton Manning or something.

Watch other QBs. Compare. Stop grading on a curve out of cope. Who are the NFL QBs that Bryce has shown that his arm is definitely better than? To be average you need to be able to list half of the NFL's QBs. There's no way in hell you can honestly do that.

Leave it to the Panthers to give us the tank year so many have been calling for after we trade away next year's 1st. That's peak David Tepper.

It honestly blows my mind that you can watch Bryce in the NFL and be willing to die on this hill. If he has NFL average arm talent he hasn't shown it yet. I welcome him showing it but I'm not gonna sit here and delude myself prior to that occuring.

Ouch.

You know how I know it isn't going well? All the "proof" is from college.

I don't need to see anymore college highlights where he has all the room in the world to step into throws. I've seen them. Let's see it in the NFL.

I said pre-draft I was fine with Bryce, Stroud, or Richardson. I said that Bryce's arm was probably average at best but I convinced myself it was average. I was wrong. So far what we've seen is a well below average arm. We saw two plus arms tonight. That's an unfair comparison. But go watch the Goffs and Cousins of the world. That's NFL average. Bryce has considerably less arm talent than that based on what we've seen so far.

No, I haven't been talking poo about Fields. He needed to make improvements but you always saw the prerequisite physical talent. At the end of the day if you don't have the prerequisite physical talent nothing else matters. The stands are filled with great guys. Sidelines and front offices and scouting departments are filled with brilliant football minds. Those guys aren't playing because they're not physically capable.

Howell is on track to be sacked more than David Carr was as a rookie, but continue on.

I'm not talking about running, bro. You're clinging to hope that Bryce can throw deep and fit balls into tight windows. Where's the proof? I saw throws every single drive tonight that Bryce Young simply hasn't shown the ability to make. That's just the sad reality.

Bryce Young is a nice young man. But I ain't seen no dawg.

I hope Panthers fans saw tonight what I've been screaming. Our QB just can't do the things I see from other NFL QBs. I don't hate Bryce Young. Stop saying it. It's not his fault. He's just VERY physically limited at the NFL level.

It honestly would not surprise me if Ron gets fired tomorrow.