LinvilleGorge

I wasn't just talking about how Bryce was playing. I was also talking about the forum vibes.

I said it at the time. If you're making this trade you CAN'T include your only proven WR in it. You just can't. Given that I need to build around this rookie QB, Ickey and DJ would've been my two absolute red lines in terms of players involved in the trade.

Way too many threads devolve into posters just attacking each other over opposing views. There's honestly no many positive only posters left, hence the offer to give them their own thread. Hell, I'd give them their own forum if it was up to me.

I convinced myself I was fine with any of Richardson, Stroud, or Bryce. I could fully understand the arguments for and against all three. But I wanted Richardson and I'd be panicking over his injury concerns if we'd drafted him. So I would've fuged it up too.

Let me put it this way. I have no interest in another Scott Fitterer 2nd round WR looking at TMJ and Mingo.

This. I really don't understand the mocking posts when this was literally the messaging from the organization.

Honestly, I didn't mind the trade. We correctly assessed that we were too low to have a shot at one of the top QB prospects at #9. Evidently we were targeting #3 but the cost differential wasn't all that different to get to #1 so why not? We played much better down the stretch last year and had every reasonable expectation to believe that with better coaching we weren't going to be in a position. To draft any higher the following year. It was a rare situation where there were #1 overall caliber QB prospects available and the team sitting at #1 didn't want a QB so it was available. Sometimes you have to be willing to roll the dice and take your shot. No one would be complaining about the trade right now if Bryce was playing like that other rookie QB.

Ever since Smitty there's a lot of our fanbase that thinks anyone who isn't arguably the best WR in the NFL isn't a "true #1". Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a guy like that again but there's only a handful in the league at any given time.

THIS IS A SINCERE OFFER. I guess y'all thought I was trolling. Honest to god I'm not. If y'all want a positive vibes only thread I'll give you one and enforce it.

I was. But then the positive crowd came with negativity. I didn't want to deal with the howling from banning them for it.

Just not accurate. I'd love to be wrong about Bryce. Unfortunately, so far I have been. I'm ready to be wrong again though.

There's a block feature. Feel free to use it. Some of y'all really must not remember all the mocking TeDdY cAn'T tHrOw DeEp posts every time he'd complete a pass over 10 yards. I'm just sayin'... it's the same vibes.

Chuba is easily our best RB and Piniero is a solid kicker. Yes. Bryce looked the best he has so far yesterday but I just don't know what his ceiling is if he can't threaten defenses vertically

I'm not calling his arm average. It looks considerably below average IMO. I thought it was NFL average pre-draft. I think I was wrong.

For the umpteenth time. The. Offer. Was. Sincere. If y'all wanted a positive vibes only thread I'd give you one and enforce it. I don't think there's any actual desire for it. I think some folks just want to take their frustrations out on fellow fans instead of directing them at the team/organization causing the frustrations

I don't care about this mythical "true #1" but I honestly don't think you can name 32 better NFL WRs than Tee Higgins.

We take too many fliers on pure measurables prospects. I'm all about it occasionally. Sometimes you can hit some real home runs. But when you look at most of our picks since Rhule was hired it's like we're just taking the highest rated RAS prospect on the board. We need to try to win football games, not the Combine.

It was a sincere offer. That's the problem. Everything right now is taken in the worst of possible context. I can't fix that.

I'd honestly rather look to FA for WR and use #33 elsewhere.

Ugh. I'd rather not. Have we ever had a 2nd round WR pick work out? We sure have drafted a bunch of duds.

That's the thing. I WAS positive. Then preseason started and we looked terrible. I shared my concerns as did others. We were roundly mocked for not understanding the NFL and how preseason doesn't matter and how everything will look so much different and better once we started game planning So... when does preseason endband this game planning begin? I'm ready for us to look much different and better.

What would y'all like it to be named? I'll make it whatever.

It won't. But several will.

I hope so but I need to see it. I'm out of hope.

That's just how you chose to interpret it.