LinvilleGorge

Yeah, he really does want to build a winner. I'll give him that. He just had to accept that he has to get out of his own way in order to have any chance of accomplishing it.

As he should. He's done enough for UNC. Kinda glad. I really didn't want to go to that bowl anyway but I had committed myself to it if Drake played.

This was where I was. My preference was Richardson but he and Stroud were basically my 1a and 1b. I did mental gymnastics to convince myself to be okay with Bryce but I really didn't want him. The deficiencies we've seen were there to see in his college play. But I have to admit I'm shocked by how bad he's been. Not in my wildest dreams was he gonna be THIS bad.

It wasn't intended directly for you. You're far from the only one who puts the failed professionals on an unearned pedestal. But if you feel like the shoe fits you're free to wear it.

Kinda cracks me up people throw shade at "internet GMs" for discussing the team on a forum. I mean, at best the Panthers' highly paid professional brain trust has managed exactly one more NFL win this year than the Huddle would've accomplished making decisions via forum poll.

It doesn't matter unless Tepper is going to hire someone and let them actually do their job. Hire qualified people, step back, and give them some time and space to fix this mess you've made.

I don't know if there's honestly a lot of thought beyond "fug, we're just embarrassed at this point and don't know what to do so let's just keep on keeping on and just act like we're confident in this QB that's shitting the bed every Sunday."

It's a big part of why they won't sit him. They're gonna look even worse if Dalton comes in and plays considerably better. The time to play Dalton was after he looked way better than Bryce when he played in week three. At this point the season is sunk so why bother? Just keep trotting Bryce out there and repeating the mantras. Bryce will be fine. Bryce will be a good NFL QB.

Honest to god of you saw Bryce and he told you he was a college football player - forget NFL or hell even D1 - you'd automatically think kicker or punter. When he said no to that you'd go, hmmm... slot receiver? No. Nickelback? No. Return specialist? No. Bruh, we're fresh out of options. I'm a quarterback he says.

That little tidbit sure has caused a bunch of triggering this year.

It's not like he was good in the first 8 weeks. We already had serious concerns. He just went from one of the worst QBs in the league to THE worst QB in the league.

It really is irrelevant. The list of great college players who don't pan out in the NFL is long indeed. After draft day your college play becomes irrelevant.

He's been an NFL coach since 2008 and a ST coordinator since 2011. He'll he fine. He'll land another ST coordinator gig elsewhere.

Surely it came with an increase in pay. I mean, if you're stuck in this ship for the time being might as well bang as many of Tepper's dollars as you can.

That's what we (or at least Tepper) thought we were getting. Bryce was gonna come in and dice the league up like a point guard with his super processing ability. We just overlooked the unfortunate reality that you have to do it with your physical talent on an NFL field, not an XBox controller like he was using on the S2 test. Tepper gonna have some kid who won a big Madden tournament in for a tryout next year. Hell, he might be our next head coach.

He doesn't have the ability to bench Bryce. Truth be told I suspect strongly suggesting benching Bryce in one of his weekly meetings with Tepper likely got Reich fired.

I didn't like him as a prospect and honestly I still doubt he pans out long-term but at least he has talent to work with and develop.

Step one is having QB talent to develop. Therein lies the issue. Bryce's primary issue is having a very low talent ceiling at the NFL level.

Tommy DeVito has 8 TDs in five starts. Bryce has 9 in twelve. Levis has thrown for 250+ yards in two games in seven starts. Bryce hasn't accomplished this feat yet.

Oh good grief, we would be soooooo fuged if it wasn't for the rookie wage scale.

Did y'all see Tommy DeVito last night? Undrafted rookie free agent Tommy DeVito? Did you see how much better he looks than Bryce even though the overall offensive talent is poor, the OL is terrible, and their best offensive player had a critical late turnover? I mean.... it's all right there to see.

Every rookie who has taken the field has shown more promise, even the UDFAs.

I just wonder when it hit them. Did they know when they drafted him but knew that he was gonna be Tepper's pick anyway so better get onboard? Was it during rookie mini camp? Training camp? I think they knew by preseason and that's why they played him so little. They put up a good front of being confident but they hid that kid in preseason like a candy wrapper under a kid's bed. They knew they'd be in trouble as soon as the NFL got tape on this guy.

People keep parroting this and the "Bryce will be fine" mantra, even professional analysts. But doubt there's many people out there who would bet real money in that. That'd be an expensive lottery ticket with roughly the same odds.

I honestly can't see anyone giving up more than a mid-rounder for him. I know the Cardinals got a 2nd for Rosen after his rookie year but he didn't have an entire season of just tragic play on film and had physical talent to work with. When you come into the draft with physical talent questions then put an entire season of film on tape confirming the worst concerns of your toughest critics... I mean, your trade value has to be gutted.