LinvilleGorge

I don't think anyone with other options is coming here at this point. If they have other options or reasonably anticipate having other options coming up within the next couple of years they're not jumping on the Tepper clown show career path grenade. And honestly their agents are probably telling them that.

They both just seem over their heads in their current roles and that's why no one else was considering them for these roles. But other than getting extremely lucky they'd be replaced by similar.

It would be about seeing the offense actually function and move the ball. Hell, a functioning offense that moves the ball and puts up points but shoots us in the dick with turnovers kinda feels like the perfect situation. We get a more watchable product, Canales shows his offense can fix ruin with a QB with NFL tools, and we protect our draft position with turnovers and Evero defense.

My concern is that the replacements will be hired by the same guy and come from the same limited talent pool of people willing to work for Tepper. That's why I'm all for giving Morgan and Canales every opportunity this year I'm not letting them trade away future high picks but I'm not getting in their way of they want to trade a 5th or less for a QB that they say can make this offense work. It's worth that cost to get the answer on them. Let them do that and the results still look like this, now you know for sure and it only cost you a later round pick to get that definitive answer.

I'm a lot less certain about that. Maybe. But I could also see Teller being minded like the Bryce stans here who were convinced last year that he'd turned the corner and that we had to just keep building around him. If that was the case going in surely he has to be over it by now.

It helps to answer the Canales question. With the Bryce question answered now we have to work on the lingering big question. I'm out on Bryce and Evero. Now we gotta work on the Canales question.

I'm not at all convinced that Canales and/or Morgan chose this route. I honestly find it doubtful that they wouldn't have preferred to upgrade the backup QB position. Maybe they honestly didn't. I don't know. But it really felt like we went into this off-season all in on the Bryce train again and that seems like something that would've come from the top. I don't see football people willingly forgoing an obvious weak spot on their roster at the most important position in the game.

Again, I get it from a fans perspective. I'm just looking at it from the Morgan/Canales perspective. If we end up with a top 3 pick looking like we currently look they're gone. If we end up with a top 10ish pick but showing some type of hope they might have a chance. These constant resets aren't working. If you fire this current crew while keeping them basically saddled to the Bryce experiment and the DC that you told them they were retaining them you didn't really even give it a chance. Do I think that Morgan/Canales are the answer? I'm very doubtful. But I also realize that no one with other options is coming to Carolina so we're looking at replacing them with similar level candidates and just praying that a scratch off lottery ticket hits. At some point you have to at least start convincing the front office/coaching talent pool that they're going to get a fair shake in Carolina and right now I think there's the opposite feeling out there and for good reason.

That's why I'd bench Bryce sooner rather than later. There are still several weeks until the trade deadline. There's plenty of time to get a good look at Dalton. If he's looking like ass after 2-3 games at that point I think you have to seriously shop around.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying to not draft a QB next year. I'm saying that if you're Canales and Morgan first thing's first, you gotta GET to next year. I think they're gonna have to do something to make a move for a bandaid QB approach if they're gonna make it to next year.

The size thing is only the half of it. The arm talent issue is every bit as limiting as the size issue. Honestly, outside of having decent mobility Bryce is significantly subpar in every other physical talent category.

The offensive or defensive minded HC is like the 3-4 or 4-3 argument. Both approaches have proven to work and both approaches have failed miserably when poorly implemented. I do think Tepper leans heavily offense though and given the NFL's push toward rule changes that favor the offense that's the way I personally lean too. I just think the NFL is going to keep tweaking the rules to try to encourage more offense because that's what drives viewership so if that's the case I do think all else being equal you're better off with an offensive minded focus.

From a fan perspective? Yeah. From the Canales/Morgan perspective? You gotta still be employed by then. I'm not sure Bryce/Dalton/Hooker gets that done. Tepper wants offense. If you bring in a vet who puts up yards and points but buries you with turnovers you've at least demonstrated that you can make your offense work with an NFL caliber QB. This current embarrassment of a poo show probably leads to another full on reset with the talent pool of people willing to come work for Tepper shrinking increasingly smaller. I mean, someone is always going to sign up for that payday but I think we're to the point that our wish lists have to start where everyone else's ends because anyone with other options is choosing the other option. That's why the thought of another reset just isn't very exciting to me. It's the front office/coaching staff equivalent of having to build a roster out of UDFAs and off the couch FAs. It's almost certainly gonna be a disaster.

They might as well. They spent a lick on them and they're ass so give him a shot in real action. It'll at least get them press coverage for a minute which I honestly think was the primary driver of that pick to begin with.

Go get me Jameis or Howell. Get me a guy who has proven he can put up numbers. Forget the turnovers, we just need to see if Canales can field an offense that can produce given a QB with NFL tools. The Bryce question feels answered. Now we need to answer the Canales question. The reality is that Shedeur has looked like ass except against our camp bodies - the camp bodies of one of if not the worst team in the league. He looked like ass against our primary backups. He didn't do anything until we were playing Amazon warehouse workers.

Who handpicked him to be the next one in the club. It seemed very obvious that not matter what they were going to force JR to sell the Panthers to Tepper.

They convert on 4th anyway.

There was no interference there. There was hand fighting and the receiver went down to try to make a play on the ball. Would've been a tough catch but one he would probably say he should've made.

In that situation I doubt Bryce could've pushed the ball much more than 30 yards down the field.

You have got to be kidding me. Some of these catches the Cowboys receivers have made tonight are just insane.

Really didn't understand that last play from GB. Your odds of scoring from 40 yards out slim to none. I would've just been trying to get 8-10 yards to turn a 53 yarder into a 43 yarder. He made it easily anyway so it doesn't matter. To OT we go.

Wow. Did GB just think they had the game won? That was the most pathetic defensive effort I've seen in a long time. WOW.

The look on Dak's face starting to warm up says the boys are cooked. That face screamed "well fug".

There are no trap games for bad teams. We didn't overlook the Patriots. We weren't looking past the Patriots. We got our ass kicked because we sucked. It looks like we kicked the Falcons ass because we were a trap game for them.

Yeah, all I wanted from him this year was a definitive answer. Either clearly be the guy or clearly not be the guy. Well, he's clearly not the guy. But there's still some folks hanging on. Bless their hearts.