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Speaking of semantics though, it's hilarious how a handful of folks are trying to redefine "toxicity" as someone having a differing opinion.

Most outlets had Bryce #1. To you it was enough to be a consensus. To me it wasn't. Especially considering how many bumped Bryce up when it became obvious he was going to be the pick. Ultimately these guys are trying to bail the draft. The closer you get to the draft the more they move toward trying to predict the draft vs. giving their opinions. We're arguing over the semantics of a definition.

Yeah, Bob and Tom's mock draft is very relevant in determining expert consensus. A lot of mock drafts are "consensus" because they just copy each other.

I know what "consensus" means. I think y'all are overblowing the level of consensus in Bryce being #1. Yeah, a lot of folks had him #1. A lot more had him #1 when it became obvious the Panthers would indeed draft him #1. Is it because they had him #1 or because they were trying to be right in their mock draft and rankings? But there were plenty of folks who didn't have him #1. To me, consensus means that there is broad agreement with little dissent. No, it's not unanimity but it's damn close. A simple majority does not equal a consensus IMO. The Ringer also had CJ the #1 overall QB.f Iy'all want to say he was the consensus #1, fine. It's really a moot point. How about now? You want to see a real consensus? Poll the experts on who the best rookie QB is.

Yeah, we've talked about that chart. It's interesting. It's also completely subjective. Who is determining "accurate" and "open" and how? Save me your pity party. No one is trying or threatening to sensor you in anyway.

Predictive probability reports... Tepper plugged a bunch of variables into a formula and it spit out results. Formulas can't account for any variables outside of the inputs. You could easily create a formula that would spit out your preferred QB as QB1. If you like measurables, your formula is going to spit out Richardson. If you like intangibles and college stats while downplaying measurables, it's gonna spit out Bryce. If you like a combo of the two, it's gonna spit out CJ.

This just reads like you encountered information that you didn't like.

"consensus" https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2023-nfl-draft-top-10-quarterbacks-2/ https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/story/_/id/36184202/2023-nfl-draft-jeff-legwold-ranking-top-100-prospects https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2023-nfl-draft-big-board/

Rewatch week three. It's like you like in a world where that game didn't happen.

That's what he said when his agent notified him.

Experience succeeding in an environment dominated by an overbearing ego maniacal jackass is a major plus.

I honestly think he's just a rubber stamp for Tepper. I'm sure he makes most of the day to day decisions but when Tepper wants to get involved I think Scott just says "yes sir, whatever you say sir, brilliant idea sir, I'm embarrassed I didn't think of this myself sir".

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/27/2023-nfl-draft-panthers-nicole-tepper-trade-call-dj-johnson/

Here's Dave showing the new GM around. Last we heard she was out evaluating the OL during practice.

That would honestly make sense with Andrews going down. But I suspect he's going back to Philly. Their #2 TE has 7 total targets on the season.

The very few remaining hope brigade holdouts are definitely the most entertaining part of the Huddle at this point.

But I was told that Bryce was the consensus #1 QB available, inside and outside of the Panthers organization. So this can't possibly be true.

Tanking in a season when you've already traded away your 1st rounder might just be peak Panthering.

Fitts has gone full Hurney. Loo at all these guys on IR! Of course we suck! It's not my fault! Everyone just got hurt! Well, I guess Scott actually needs to bail a first round pick before we give him the credit of going full Hurney. Unfortunately he has emulated the negatives while failing to replicate the one positive.

Wake me up when Tepper makes a smart hire and then gives the guy the space and freedom to do his job. Because right now this just looks like the same thing repeating itself all over again.

Bozeman ain't dumb. He knows who's ultimately making the decisions and whose ass he needs to kiss.

Is there anyone in the league that our record would be worse than 1-10? I mean, if you or me was the QB we'd only have one additional loss.

I wasn't a big fan of trading for Lamar simply because it would've meant giving up significant draft assets and a massive contract for a QB with a significant injury history and a playing style that kenda itself to future industry, but fug... I would've rather done that than trade up for Bryce.

That Penn State guy is fuging terrible. Seriously. WTF? If Penn State just had a decent QB they would've been a problem. QB was their problem.