LinvilleGorge

Pissed is one thing. Frustrated is one thing. Dejected is another. He seemed dejected to me. Dejected isn't good.

I don't doubt his football intelligence. I just don't know that he has the physical tools to deliver on it and his demeanor is starting to concern me. He's starting to seem really lacking in confidence IMO but I'm not a Bama fan so I didn't closely follow him in college so I don't have a baseline there. This might just be how he is when things aren't going great. I don't know.

Keep in mind, Howell is on pace to get sacked more than David Carr did as a rookie. Still ballin'.

The plays we're running certainly screams it. I just don't know if it's the plays that are bing called or if Bryce is Kill, kill, killing us into a lot of these plays. Just let the guy run the offense. If he's continuously audibling into a super safe play, cut off his audibles or at least narrow the options. We can't just keep throwing screens and checkdowns with no vertical threat though.

I think we have a problem and it's bigger than Reich. Or Fitterer. Or Bryce Young. Or any other coach, player, or front office personnel. Ever since Tepper started "putting his stamp on the football side of the house" (I think that's the verbiage he used) after focusing on the business side of operations in year one, everything has been a series of comedies of errors. Tepper gets involved and makes a bold decision and proudly announces it to the world. Everything goes to poo. Tepper disappears. Tepper reappears to announce another bold move. Everything goes to poo. Tepper disappears. It's a recurring theme.

Why would he open up the playbook with a different QB?

Somebody here begged for us to draft Howell. Many here laughed and mocked me when he bafflingly fell to the 5th. Well, call the Commanders and offer Bryce Young for Sam Howell straight up if you want to hear laughter and mocking now.

To be clear, do I think we're the #3 offense in the NFL if Dalton is the starter? Hell no. But we're at or hear the bottom of the league with Bryce and I don't think having the guy out there throwing constant screens and checkdowns is doing much of anything for his development. If this is all we can do with him it might be time to develop while watching. What I'm saying is take off the training wheels or sit him. It's not fair to the rest of the team. These guys have careers of their own.

All I'm saying is the offense certainly looked a lot different and a lot more effective with a different QB. Honestly, I'm ready to see Dalton again just to see if it was a fluke or not.

No conclusion was offered, sir. Hence the no commentary. I agree that one is a tiny sample size. Three starts to paint a picture though. Take away the pick six and we are the lowest scoring team in the league in Bryce's three starts.

No clue. I'm not watching the all 22. All I know is that we threw downfield with Dalton more on one game than we have in three with Bryce and we did it effectively. And all I'm asking is why y'all think that might be? The goalposts of excuses keep moving but our offense keeps looking the same with Bryce.

Plenty of us talked about arm talent concerns pre-draft. Why did the offense have a credible downfield attack with Dalton?

Careful now. This is a sensitive subject.

This might be a brash opinion but I think we should consider starting to evaluate receiver types for their actual receiving skills and not just look at measurables and potential. I don't mind taking a shot at a height/weight/speed guy with development potential. But you don't want to make a whole unit out of those guys. All of our young receivers are that.

We're 30th in the NFL in points scored over Bryce's three starts. We're 3rd in the NFL on scoring in the lone Dalton start. This is going to trigger folks hard, but that's just the numbers with no additional commentary added.

But all in all? Honestly, I'm happy for CMC. Get after it, buddy.

I honestly don't care how the production comes. Just give me production. Jefferson and Chase are probably the two best WRs in the NFL currently and they're playing more and more in the slot.

I got drug on here for telling people to not be surprised if CMC suddenly becomes much more durable if he's traded to a contender. Sons of former players tend to be considerably smarter about how they manage their career. They have their dad who has been there and done that in their ear.

Reich really does need to give up play calling. It's a win/win for him in PR. If he does and it works then he swallowed his pride and did what's best for the team. That's what you want a HC to do. If he does and Bryce still looks the same then it wasn't his play calling that was the issue to begin with. If Bryce is "Kill! Kill! Kill!"ing the offense into bad plays then at some point you have to take away his audible toy and force him to run the play that's called. There's options available but we can't just keep doing the same thing and blindly hoping it'll just magically get better.

Feel free to put me on ignore. But don't expect to go on a victim tour accusing me of attacking you personally with no critique back. If you can't handle disagreement maybe a place to exchange ideas isn't a good place for you. Sorry if you take that as a personal attack but it honestly feels to me like just pointing out basic reality.

See.

I have no idea what's going on but everyone within the Panthers organization was giving off the vibe that Bryce was way ahead of where anyone expected him to be and we treated preseason as such. We treated preseason like we were a vet team expected to make a SB run. Everything seemed super confident even though we looked pretty terrible. No big deal many said. "LOL! It's preseason!" we heard over and over. Then the regular season arrived and it's looked like a continuation of preseason. At some point some reality has to start sinking in.

This. How many times is he going to have to get involved in the football decisions and fug it up to learn? And we know he's involved because he is all about bragging about his personal involvement when these decisions are announced and then disappears from the public eye when things start going to poo only to reappear in the future to once again brag about his personal involvement in this new big splash move.

I bet there aren't any Texans fans reciting the "only three games" mantra. Well, four on their case. But still.

I was onboard with trading CMC. We didn't need a huge money RB and we did need roster building assets and he was one of our few players we could trade for premium assets. We just have a helluva trend of turning gold into coal. The trade? Good. What we did with the assets acquired? Trash.