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his heater...

Honestly, this is a good thing. I'm glad we're being forced to put Dalton out there and honestly if Bryce is going to miss multiple weeks we might feel pressured to shop for a late round pick type of trade to shore up the backup QB position. Sometimes you have to get forced into doing the thing you should've already been trying to do.

There's two games left before the trade deadline. We needed this. We need to see Dalton out there while there's still time left on the clock. I say this knowing full well that the Bryce stans are gonna be insufferable if (when) we lose. LOL

Yep. Like I said earlier, it would've been the comparatively far less painful mistake to move on from. Honestly, minus the insane investment made we would've already moved on from Bryce by now. We're stuck in a sunk cost fallacy quagmire at the moment.

I'm fine with putting Dalton out there and seeing how it goes. That's why I'm hoping Bryce is gonna miss this week. We still have time. There's two games to go before the trade deadline so let's see what the rusty old Red Rifle has left.

Agreed. I don't think Stroud would've proven to be worth the cost of the move but honestly when you make that move anything short of legit MVP caliber is a disappointing outcome.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we've got the pieces in place for sure, I just don't want Tepper to get antsy and clean house again without giving these guys a fighting chance. Bryce playing like this very well might get these guys fired because the losses are gonna start piling up against better competition. If the losses are piling up but we're competing that's one thing. But if the losses are piling up and the offense is looking completely anemic that might be the end of the road.

Yep. Michael Oher gave us a season of good play before getting derailed by concussion issues but other than that it's been a poo show.

Dalton of old? Probably so. But man, Andy looked incredibly washed in the preseason. I don't think he's the same guy that was slinging it against the Seahawks that one game.

He's earned it. He's developed his pass protection skills and that was the weak spot. He's looking like a legit franchise LT.

David Tepper was spot on when he said that you need a GM, a HC, and a QB. Everything else is a want. Yeah, an elite WR is nice but plenty of good offenses don't have one. Same with an elite pass rusher or CB. You need a good OL but you don't necessarily have to have a franchise LT to field one. There's no other individual roster spot that you have to have a stud outside of QB. Tepper was right about GM, HC, and QB. He's just been abysmal at putting the pieces together even though we let two starting QBs slip through our fingers because we didn't have the GM or HC in place.

Zero pressures allowed from the OTs. Wow. Ekwonu earned a career-high 90.8 pass-blocking grade from PFF. He, as well as Moton, allowed zero pressures over 36 opportunities.

I kinda just wanna see what the offense can do with a QB who has proven he can move the football in the NFL. If Dalton wasn't a shadow of his former self I'd be fine with him but Father Time has definitely caught up with him. If we start piling up the losses as the schedule gets tougher and the passing offense continues to be anemic that might cost Canales his job and it's worth a very low risk move IMO to at least give him a fighting chance. The thought of yet another Tepper rebuild just isn't at all exciting to me having already seen a few of them. I'm about giving this current guy a fighting chance. I think Greg Cosell is exactly right. We're playing on offense the way we have to play with Bryce Young at QB. I'd be curious to see what it looks like with a QB with more arm talent and more willingness to push the ball down the field even if it comes with turnovers.

This is just a non-argument. Jameis and Howell are the guys being mentioned most often. Jameis is an a two year/$8M contract and Howell is on a one year/$1.1M contract. What I'd be willing to do is something along the lines of a 6th rounder or a 5th/6th swap. I don't think anyone is talking about doing anything much more aggressive than something along those lines.

Dude is asking like people are clamoring for some major trade when this is the type of move people are actually clamoring for.

They're similar in that rushing the passer really isn't their forte. They can impact the pass rush by collapsing the pocket and opening up opportunities for others and sometimes get the sack themselves but sacking the QB isn't what either does best. Jenkins also had the benefit of having MUCH better edge rushers who prevented the QB from escaping the pocket to the outside. Rookie Peppers had 12 sacks on one side and Rucker had 10 on the other. I honestly put them roughly equal as pass rushers. They're not sack monsters but they definitely impact the QB.

Brown has 3 sacks through 7 games. That has him tracking to match Jenkins' career best 7 sacks.

He's truly terrible. And it's not for lack of opportunity. Yeah, the Bears always suck at QB and so do the Jets but he had a pit stop with the Steelers in the meantime. That was his legit shot. I still wish we had drafted Fields though simply because it would've saved us from making that trade up for Bryce. It would've been the far less painful mistake to move on from.

It's not like people are clamoring to trade prime assets. We're basically just saying to pick up the phone and see what might be available for a late round pick. With a 6th round pick you only have about a 2% chance of becoming an NFL starter. Hell, you have about 50/50 odds of making the 53 man roster.

We've all seen highly touted QB prospects bust over and over again so it should never be seen as shocking when it happens, but man... given his skill set, Fields is just unbelievably terrible.

Yep. You can't afford to pay non-elite QBs elite QB money and there's always about 20 guys in the NFL making elite QB money. That's at least 10 too many. I'll always argue that you're better off needing a QB than you are to be cap handcuffed by an average starter. Truth be told, I think the Niners are learning that in real time right now. Purdy goes down and Mac Jones comes in and they haven't missed a beat. That's because they're honestly about the same tier of player, Purdy just got to enjoy an ideal situation from the word go. If Jones had landed in Purdy's situation he'd probably be Purdy and vice versa. You can't back up the Brinks truck for that. As bad as Jones was early on he's honestly probably bounced out of the league if he had been Mr. Irrelevant.

I'm a proponent of riding the hot hand. Rico is clearly the hot hand right now. That could change over the course of the season and Chuba could get hot and we ride him. But either way give the guy who is producing the majority of the touches.

He's dominant. He has become everything we thought we were getting in the draft - basically prime Kris Jenkins without the conditioning issues.