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Like Cam said, if you play good they pay good.

Yeah, if I knew the feeling in the building was that we're improving but we can't hitch our wagon to Bryce I could sit back and enjoy the games. But the thought of extending Bryce as a franchise QB is horrifying. If he continues to function as an effective game manager I wouldn't be opposed to picking up his 5th year option to buy us another year but hell to the no extending him as a franchise QB and it wouldn't shock me to see us do it.

I get it. All I'm saying is that we have a massive limiting factor at the most important position in the game. If we fug around and commit to that massive limiting factor we're cooked. If I had a line in with the front office and staff that I knew that they knew this and they're committed to keep their options open at QB moving forward while playing lip service to Bryce in the press, cool. I get that. But I don't have that line. Winning some games against terrible competition while our backup RB plays like prime Adrian Peterson is cool but not if it leads to a huge mistake. That's my big concern.

There are no juggernauts this year. Feels like everyone in the playoffs field is gonna have a puncher's chance. All the best teams still have very obvious flaws.

He blew it. That was gift wrapped and he may have been able to take it to the house.

OMG why are they throwing the ball? Shaq dropped a game changing INT that may have gone for a TD

They convert but Bijan steps out of bounds? You got a understand what you're trying to accomplish here. Stay inbounds.

Why in the world is Atlanta running empty backfield with 5:30 to go up 7? And they false start. LOL

Their D is a problem, particularly their rushing D. They were second to last in the league in most yards allowed per rushing attempt going into tonight. They're probably last now. And then when you can't stop the run and have to commit more defenders to the box it opens up opportunities through the air.

Yes it was. Who would've thought that would be the beginning of the end? We all thought we'd make a few adjustments and be right back and be in the mix for years to come. It just all went sideways really fast.

Especially when one of the things Ward needed to work on moving to the NFL was getting the ball out faster. He played a lot like Caleb Williams in college. He'd hold the ball forever trying to looked for the big chunk play. In the NFL most plays are designed to get the ball out fast and you setup your plays where you're trying to take a shot.

If his seat was hot enough for him to be fired 6 games in then you should've just fired him when you made the decision to draft a QB #1 overall. I don't think you go from "this is definitely our guy" to "you're fired in 6 games". Seems like there would be had to have been doubts going in and that's not a recipe for success for a rookie QB.

I don't think there's any one size fits all answer. I think you play the rookie when A) you think he's ready and B) you think there's a reasonable expectation that the overall situation provides him an opportunity to be successful, not necessarily in terms of wins and losses but just in terms of giving him a fighting chance with surrounding talent. If you rush either one it's probably not gonna be pretty. Reich never seemed like he wanted Bryce. I don't know if he was led to believe he'd have more input on the QB decision or if he just thought he'd be more persuasive but the wind just seemed to go out of his sails once we landed on Bryce. That situation is never gonna work out.

Some organizations are just seemingly broken beyond repair. Basically look at those teams that are routinely drafting in the top 10 year after year after year. It's bigger than a GM or a coach or a QB. It's overall organizational failure.

Wild if true. I honestly think that's a big mistake on Penn State's part. Do they really think Matt Rhule is their answer to beating Ohio State and Michigan? I just don't see it. Not based on his track record. Seems like spending a ton of money to buyout James Franklin to hire... James Franklin.

This year's Bucs remind me of our '03 Super Bowl team. They just keep winning but every week is an absolute dog fight that they have to win at the buzzer.

He was the perfect hire for Nebraska at the time and I said it before he even started being connected to the job. He's proven he can drag a college team out of the gutter and get them back to at least respectability and being competitive. What he hadn't proven is that he can take that next step and actually start winning some big games. A blue blood program honestly shouldn't want anything to do with him until he does. If I'm Penn State I'm trying my ass off to lure in Cignetti. I know he's in his early 60s and probably gives you 8-10 years at most but the guy just wins.

This is why I've stopped watching. I finally just accepted that. After holding out some hope that Bryce could turn it around I'd seen enough. We're stuck in purgatory right now. A backup RB playing like the best player in the league doesn't change that reality. I've watched my last Bryce QB'd Panthers game. Wake me up when it's over. Not trying to convince anyone else to do the same, not trying to take away from anyone else's joy, that's just where I'm at at this point.

I hope so. We've been floundering around for a decade in no small part because we've been drafting terribly.

I think it's reasonable to be happy that Bryce is playing better while supported by a RB playing like the best player in the league over the past two weeks but to downplay the play of that RB to boost Bryce just seems wild.

I'm not upset. I'm just done being duped. We're beating bad teams while our backup RB is playing out of his mind looking like the best player in the league. Is that trend like to continue or likely to translate into beating teams that aren't bad? I very seriously doubt it. If y'all want to celebrate being stuck in purgatory be my guest.

Looking at the stat sheets I'm not sure why there's this need to downplay Rico to boost Bryce. I mean, Rico Dowdle has arguably been the best player in the NFL over the past two weeks.

Wow. What a throw and catch

What could we get? Maybe a 4th, 3rd at best? And take a big cap hit from the accelerated bonus money? Who would be interested? Honestly probably only legit contenders with an obvious immediate need at RB? Who is that? Maybe New England? Just not seeing a lot of teams out there that the move would make a lot of sense for.

I just stopped watching. I haven't watched the last 10 quarters. Don't plan on changing that. I'm out as long as we're stuck in this Bryce purgatory. It's just wild watching from the sidelines while people embrace the purgatory. Most everyone agree that the worst possible outcome this season was the not get a definitive answer on Bryce but to win just enough games to give hope and have us stick with the status quo moving forward. Currently that's exactly how we're tracking.