LinvilleGorge

I think it's more about being able to fairly evaluate what we have. I'm sold on T-Mac. XL looked better than he ever has before yesterday which is promising. Coker is coming back and could round out a decent starting WR corps. It's not about winning games for me as much as it is giving Canales' offense it's best opportunity to shine and being able to better evaluate our young receivers. It's just tough to really see what we might or might not have when we're having to do this dink and dunk bullshit because we have a QB who can't effectively throw the ball down the field consistently.

How much of it is due to Bryce forcing you into a very conservative offensive gameplan though? Their TD:INT ratios are virtually identical. If you have Bryce slinging it around like Jameis you probably end up with similar turnover numbers.

So is Bryce. Jameis just has a much different skill set that could potentially allow us to see more of the playbook and get a better idea of what we might potentially have on offense.

I'd call them mediocre. Probably the best offense in the league and the worst defense in the league. I mean, we all saw the Jets' offense yesterday and the Jets put up 22 on the Cowboys. Hell, we saw OUR offense yesterday and we put up 30 on the 'boys. LOL

Yeah, look at how frustrated AJ Brown was in Philly not getting the ball and they're 5-2 and have been one of the best teams in the league in recent years. Even if you're winning at some point if you feel like you're not being put in position to be your best individually then frustration is gonna start to show.

People point at Howell's 21 INTs with Washington and says he sucks and is incredibly turnover prone but ignore that 11 of them came when Washington was down multiple scores and in YOLO comeback mode.

It won't lead to wins but it'll give our WRs a chance to do something other than 10 yard routes.

We have an outside chance of being competitive against the Bills simply because our strength is running the ball and they're abysmal at defending the run. We're gonna have to grind it out and try to keep Josh Allen on the sidelines though. We're still struggling to rush the passer and Allen will probably eat. Catching the Bills coming off of a bye week following a disappointing loss is a pretty shitty draw though. We'll see...

Like a winter storm in NC. Just warm enough not to snow but still cold enough to be miserable and probably cause an icy mess.

And what would you call what you're doing? LOL

his heater...

Honestly, this is a good thing. I'm glad we're being forced to put Dalton out there and honestly if Bryce is going to miss multiple weeks we might feel pressured to shop for a late round pick type of trade to shore up the backup QB position. Sometimes you have to get forced into doing the thing you should've already been trying to do.

There's two games left before the trade deadline. We needed this. We need to see Dalton out there while there's still time left on the clock. I say this knowing full well that the Bryce stans are gonna be insufferable if (when) we lose. LOL

Yep. Like I said earlier, it would've been the comparatively far less painful mistake to move on from. Honestly, minus the insane investment made we would've already moved on from Bryce by now. We're stuck in a sunk cost fallacy quagmire at the moment.

I'm fine with putting Dalton out there and seeing how it goes. That's why I'm hoping Bryce is gonna miss this week. We still have time. There's two games to go before the trade deadline so let's see what the rusty old Red Rifle has left.

Agreed. I don't think Stroud would've proven to be worth the cost of the move but honestly when you make that move anything short of legit MVP caliber is a disappointing outcome.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we've got the pieces in place for sure, I just don't want Tepper to get antsy and clean house again without giving these guys a fighting chance. Bryce playing like this very well might get these guys fired because the losses are gonna start piling up against better competition. If the losses are piling up but we're competing that's one thing. But if the losses are piling up and the offense is looking completely anemic that might be the end of the road.

Yep. Michael Oher gave us a season of good play before getting derailed by concussion issues but other than that it's been a poo show.

Dalton of old? Probably so. But man, Andy looked incredibly washed in the preseason. I don't think he's the same guy that was slinging it against the Seahawks that one game.

He's earned it. He's developed his pass protection skills and that was the weak spot. He's looking like a legit franchise LT.

David Tepper was spot on when he said that you need a GM, a HC, and a QB. Everything else is a want. Yeah, an elite WR is nice but plenty of good offenses don't have one. Same with an elite pass rusher or CB. You need a good OL but you don't necessarily have to have a franchise LT to field one. There's no other individual roster spot that you have to have a stud outside of QB. Tepper was right about GM, HC, and QB. He's just been abysmal at putting the pieces together even though we let two starting QBs slip through our fingers because we didn't have the GM or HC in place.

Zero pressures allowed from the OTs. Wow. Ekwonu earned a career-high 90.8 pass-blocking grade from PFF. He, as well as Moton, allowed zero pressures over 36 opportunities.

I kinda just wanna see what the offense can do with a QB who has proven he can move the football in the NFL. If Dalton wasn't a shadow of his former self I'd be fine with him but Father Time has definitely caught up with him. If we start piling up the losses as the schedule gets tougher and the passing offense continues to be anemic that might cost Canales his job and it's worth a very low risk move IMO to at least give him a fighting chance. The thought of yet another Tepper rebuild just isn't at all exciting to me having already seen a few of them. I'm about giving this current guy a fighting chance. I think Greg Cosell is exactly right. We're playing on offense the way we have to play with Bryce Young at QB. I'd be curious to see what it looks like with a QB with more arm talent and more willingness to push the ball down the field even if it comes with turnovers.

This is just a non-argument. Jameis and Howell are the guys being mentioned most often. Jameis is an a two year/$8M contract and Howell is on a one year/$1.1M contract. What I'd be willing to do is something along the lines of a 6th rounder or a 5th/6th swap. I don't think anyone is talking about doing anything much more aggressive than something along those lines.