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Oh wee mayne, that's a big concern as we well know from our experiences with Luke, our current GM, Oher, etc. Anyone who follows the fight game knows that once the concussions start piling up the chin just doesn't recover. Once that jaw is cracked it's a real tough row to hoe.

My concern is the injury issue. He has missed a lot of games in his career.

I really don't even think he was treated that badly. I just think there was a massive disconnect between the media hype and how the media perceived him as an NFL prospect and how he was actually perceived by the NFL. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a similar thing with Arch Manning. When I watched Shedeur I saw a really good college QB who was fun and exciting to watch but who just didn't have the tool set to be drafted as a starting NFL QB. I said forever that forget #1 overall, this guy isn't a 1st round prospect. He looks like a typical mid-round flyer type QB pick. With Arch, I don't even see a good college QB. I see a guy largely being carried by a great roster. We'll see if he develops next year but that throwing motion is a mess which is shocking from a Manning and it's really impacting his ability to generate velocity and be consistent with accuracy. If he was in this year's draft I'd honestly expect him to go around the same area of the draft that Shedeur did. They're starting the hype train back up again but based on what we've seen so far I think it's nuts to be talking about this guy as a likely Heisman winner and #1 overall pick. Basically, now I know why Texas was sticking with Ewers when they supposedly had this slam dunk generational prospect riding the pine - Ewers was simply better.

Hell, many still are. Clinging to that absurd Pro Bowl nomination like its an MVP and a Lombardi.

This. Watching the media go right back to proclaiming him the favorite for the Heisman and #1 overall pick next year is wild.

Quoting your own tweet as a source is hilarious.

With continued declining interest in the Panthers.

I don't think I've ever seen a player be so coddled and catered to by a team in the NFL while pretty clearly holding the team back. We just can't get over that massive sunk cost of that trade.

Are you new to football fandom? Every fanbase whose starter sucks obsesses over the backup QB. That's where you're looking for hope.

The effort concerns disappeared... in a contract year. Oh we mayne, if that ain't a massive red flag.

I would definitely prefer not. Guys having career seasons in contract years just to go back to their norm after getting paid feels like the normal path those situations go down. There's a lot of options available. I'd prefer to go with a less costly one and drsft another LB pretty early on in the draft.

Seems to be the key. If you can do things with your arm that Bryce can't it doesn't seem like we're interested in you.

Why keep Dalton when you can sign younger, shittier Dalton? LOL

Really feels that way. If you can make NFL throws that might make Bryce look bad you keep not apply. It seeks like we're very serious about upgrading the talent at every position except QB.

Yes. This organization continues to be obsessed with QBs who lack an NFL caliber arm. It's deeply concerning. It still feels like we're protecting Bryce and we just don't want a guy on the roster who might make Bryce look bad in comparison in camp. Meanwhile, the late round rookie QB we seem to be keying on... https://www.thedraftnetwork.com/2025/08/22/sawyer-robertson-scouting-report-nfl-draft We definitely seem to have a type.

Kenny Pickett??? GTFOH. That's just a 6'4" version of Bryce from Temu. I'd rather just draft a late round rookie than sign Pickett.

Beast of a player but also a complete knucklehead. Risky.

This team was just hanging on waiting on Caleb to comeback. With him out that hope is gone. Decent chance we get bounced put of the conference tourney and NCAA tourney first games we play.

We're a borderline top 25 team without him. Sucks but him going out for the season is basically a wrap.

IMO, we need both. A plug and play quality vet plus another one fairly early in the draft is the ideal approach.

None that would actually be available for two 1sts are worth it.

On a rookie contract? Sure. Paying him $50M+ a year? That'd be a noose around our neck.

Well, poo. That's a wrap in terms of being able to make any real noise in the post-season.

IMO, the answer is pretty clear. We should sign a solid vet and LB should still be pretty high on our draft wish list. The guys getting released likely speaks highly of the incoming class. Teams see opportunities to let big money vets walk and replace them with much cheaper, younger rookies. It should also drive down the free agent market with the influx of new talent available. There should be quality vet bargains to be had. Forget the Devin Lloyds. Let someone else pay a guy the Jags were willing to let walk. Sign the third or fourth highest valued FA and still get a quality player with a lot less cap impact.

My big issue with Mesidor in the 1st is that he's a 6th year college player who will be a 25 year old rookie. I mean, we're talking about a guy who's as old as some guys are when we're talking about second NFL contract (case in point, he's actually a couple months older than Bryce, only 6 months younger than Icky, and a year younger than XL who is going into his third season and was an ancient rookie sixth year college player himself.) . A literal man playing amongst boys. Will that translate when everyone else on the field is a grown ass man too? I get really nervous about these older prospects who blow up in their final year of college play. He's not quite XL level where XL did practically nothing before his final year but Mesidor's final year was definitely the anomaly. He went from solid college player who might get an NFL opportunity to being talked about as a 1st round prospect. That's a HUGE red flag for me.