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That's 200 yards, a TD on a screen pass, a dropped INT, and a fumble recovered by us on the "Bryce curve".

It's a fact that both of the other kicks from similar range had been missed including the one from the Packers going in the same direction. Kicking a 50 yarder in the wind was deemed a better option than having Bryce throw again. That's not debatable. That's what we did. After Bryce threw a ball to an out route with an undercutting defender that could've potentially been picked that was it for throwing the ball. The forward pass was out of the playbook at that point. And honestly, that was the smart call. I'm not blaming Canales for that. We're playing the way we have to play with Bryce Young at QB. Canales is adapting well to that. Go back and watch that drive. The Packers were stacking the box every single play. They were trying to take away the run and the short passing game because they knew that's all we had. They were willing to give up 10 yard passes in the open field. They just didn't count on Rico ripping off a 19 yarder.

Close enough range? We'd already missed an XP earlier. The Packers had already missed a similar length FG earlier. The reality of the situation was that a fairly low percentage kicking opportunity given the conditions was a better bet than having Bryce throw another pass. We didn't trust him not to turn it over or not to take a sack. We'll just try a 50 yarder in the swirling wind when every other kick from this range today has been a miss.

Meanwhile she's like "uh... I just don't understand why men seem disinterested in me now" Ain't nobody trying to follow Mr. Three Soda Cans LOL

He completed 2 passes for 19 yards and then nearly threw an INT at which point we took the ball out of his hands and relied on Rico to drag us into long FG range and an inexperienced kicker to try a near 50 yarder in windy conditions because that was a better option than having Bryce throw another pass. Has it been windy for the majority of Bryce's career? Because 200+ yard games are the anomaly.

Sure. Their schedule is soft but like us sitting at 5-4 with a pretty soft schedule too, you play who's on the schedule. They absolutely creamed us. I'm sure it wouldn't have been AS ugly if we were riding Rico but that wouldn't have closed at 29 point gap.

You're just too casual to understand that "winning automatically equals good QB play" like the true football connoisseurs.

While there are people on this site celebrating Bryce "winning the game" when he threw for 102 yards, 0 TDs, a pick, and an INT? Maye is a second year player who is top 5 in the league in practically every relevant QB metric this year.

I don't think it has. I just think the position has become more and more vital to success. The days of dragging the Trent Dilfers and Brad Johnsons of the world to Super Bowls are over. People will point to Nick Foles but that guy played out of his mind in that Super Bowl run. He didn't play like a Trent Dilfer, he caught lightning in a bottle and played like a Hall of Famer for a very brief but very key period.

Give me Sam Howell and draft another one. Canales rehabbed Baker Mayfield to the extent that it got him a head coaching gig. Skill set and mentality wise, Sam Howell is basically Baker Mayfield.

Bryce standom taken to an all new level. Wow.

But that's totally different because they're the "real fans".

2/4 for 19 yards and a near INT with Rico doing the heavy lifting is exactly the type of "game winning drive" we have to pull off with Bryce. Classic example of the "too much credit" side of the "the QB usually gets too much credit when things are going well and too much blame when they aren't" dichotomy. We chose to trot out an inexperienced kicker to try a near 50 yarder in windy conditions because we were terrified of having Bryce throw another pass. That says everything.

It's comical watching people act like the people who want us to try to get a QB that's above bottom of the barrel are the people who hate the Panthers while they gleefully cheer being stuck in QB purgatory.

T-Mac absolutely looks the part of a top 10 draft pick and bonafide #1 WR. To be a top rookie with a QB who struggles to throw for 150 yards is incredible.

Yeah, if you can't make it in this QB room you just ain't NFL caliber. Like not even close.

It's amazing that this same guy is now trying to do the whole "fan policing" act.

I don't care. All that matters is the results. If it works, fine. If it doesn't I hope they stop doing it going forward.

Seems like it. Honestly if I'm the coach I'm just telling them to fire me now. How in the hell am I getting another job after I go out there and face plant with what's left of this roster?

Wow. They're tearing it down to the studs. Well... I guess more like to the ground since they're trading the studs. LOL Wonder what their plan is? It might be a reach assuming they have one.

They gave up a LOT. They're definitely all in on this Daniel Jones resurgence even after he went full Daniel Jones on Sunday.

It's the new whiter version of Ked Woodley LOL

That's what I thought too but I just talked to my NY buddy (albeit a Giants fan not Jets) and evidently Sauce has been getting killed by local media this year. Evidently he's fallen off considerably.

I've long thought the NFL overvalues draft picks. Like I get it, the draft is by far your best bet at landing talent at a value but at the same time, it's also a crap shoot. If you can land solid proven vet talent with one of those long shot mid-round picks that's probably a smart move especially if you're a good team with an obvious hole or two. The Rams built a SB team and still have a good team by treating premium draft picks largely as pure trade bait.

100%. They basically have the offense we wish we had. They're entirely reliant on Jonathan Taylor making it run. If he goes down they're probably cooked. If they have to lean on Jones it'll probably get ugly fast.