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I watched until halftime basically out of morbid curiosity. That was all I could take though.

I think Reich basically mailed it in when it became obvious we were drafting Bryce.

Had Shaheed not tripped on the turf monster, sure. But that's why you don't quit on plays.

Horn clearly expected help over the top. Horn also clearly quit on the play after the catch was made and had he not would've likely been able to tackle the stumbling receiver short of the goal line.

Tepper can't rage fire another coach in his first season. He just can't. He's already made working for him the hardest sell in the league. Rage fire another coach mid-season and guys are just gonna start telling their agents to cook up a plausible excuse for them to turn down interviews. I don't want to risk getting an offer.

Given the investment we had to make in Bryce, I think he has easily surpassed Clausen as the biggest QB disaster in franchise history. In the grand scheme of things, Clausen was really just a bust of a 2nd round pick (par for the course for the Panthers) and had a terrible season but that terrible season got us the #1 overall pick and and an MVP QB in Cam Newton so honestly even though he was individually atrocious he played his part in the overall arc of the franchise. Now we need Bryce to play us into position to hopefully get us our next franchise QB.

These guys aren't making the decisions. They're literally just being paid to rubberstamp Tepper's decisions. I cannot be convinced at this point that actual professional football people, even if they're in positions that are over their heads, are actually making the decisions that result in a football organization and an overall team that is this bad. Tepper is a narcissistic egomaniac. His failures are convincing him to be less involved. That's just not how that type of brain is wired. The problem is he's not involved enough. That's the type of delusion were saddled with.

I honestly think it's the worst NFL team I've ever seen. I don't think the Saints are good. We're just THAT bad that a mediocre NFL team just boat races us like they're the greatest team of all time.

Someone needs to organize an intervention. Like, dude... the only common thread left in this whole debacle is you. It's a YOU PROBLEM. You are the problem. If you want to ever enjoy watching a respectable football team, you have to get all the way the fug out of being involved in the football decisions.

Bryce isn't an NFL caliber QB but Bryce didn't give up 47 points either. That D was flaming hot trash today. Not sure if the 2015 Super Bowl offense led by MVP Cam Newton would've been able to put up enough points to compete today.

Or... on the flip side,maybe we just draft the biggest asshole in the draft because we're probably ruining his career so might as well be a gigantic asshole so that at least we aren't ruining a decent guy's hopes and dreams.

Too early to say right now but Cam Ward is putting himself in the conversation.

Yeah, we spent a LOT of money on guards to put in front of Bryce.

His biggest problem is he's simply not an NFL talent. His accuracy wasn't that great on college either. Go back and watch his highlights. A lot of wide open receivers making adjustments to balls that would not be completed against typical NFL windows.

I honestly don't think he has any value at this point.

I never bought the Falcons being anything so I'm not necessarily surprised by that one but the Bengals losing to the Pats only scoring 10 points is a stunner.

Unbelievable throw from Stroud and an even better catch from Nico Collins to close the show.

At some point you have to bench the guy. You lose credibility in the locker room if you don't. Hell, we might already be there. This team played like a team that knew they had no opportunity to compete today.

I don't think anyone had the Bengals losing to the Pats on their bingo card.

Anthony Richardson just went prime Cam Newton on 4th and goal.

Remember when Morgan was considered one of the hottest front office up and comers then he came here? Hell, same for Rhule in the coaching ranks. Tepper has created a toxic organization and no one with other options wants anything to do with it.

The Anthony Richardson highlights are insane. He still needs to get more consistent but he's the highest ceiling young QB in the NFL.

Yes. You have to consider the investment we made. Based on ROI, it's not even close. Bryce is the worst by a landslide.

Highly likely. It's very difficult for me to believe that football professionals have assembled this roster.

He was my 1A and Stroud was my 1B. I thought the pick between them came down to the interview and background process to see who you trusted most to put in the work required. There were just waaaaaay too many questions about Bryce's physical tools. He pretty much had ever physical red flag a QB can have. You can't trade up to #1 overall for that and I thought it was baffling how the entire NFL media just talked past it.