LinvilleGorge

Marty Hurney is the GM. Sure, I'm excited because it's something football related, but I've found way too much coal in my stocking in past years to be overly excited.

How much time have you spent outside the south? I grew up in the south. Spent the first 24 years of my life in the south. I have since lived in CO. I've traveled to 45 of the 50 states. Honestly, I don't think the south is nearly as unique in this regard as you might think.

Alright, let's nudge it back toward the discussion at hand. My fault for opening the door down that particular rabbit hole.

I think you know that I'm a fairly strong 2A supporter, but these morons you speak of are honestly the greatest threat to the 2nd Amendment. It goes back to my previous post - just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

I think that's highly likely to be reflected in the overall numbers.

Uneducated people only think about THEIR rights right NOW. Educated people understand that just because you CAN do something doesn't mean that you SHOULD.

I don't think it's that simple. The numbers among blacks are sky high, comparatively speaking. The problem isn't a racial issue as much as it is an educational/ideological issue.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Colorado isn't "opening up everything". As for the education statement, it's based on factual data. Colorado is second in the nation in percentage of the adult population with a bachelor's degree or higher at 41%. Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Arkansas are 4 of the bottom 5. West Virginia is the 5th and many lump it in as a southern state as well. So either 80% or 100% of the five least educated states in the nation are southern. NC is the third highest educated southern state behind Virginia (7th, 38.2%) and Georgia (25th, 30.7%) at 26th (30.5%).

Sharing some more stuff from my expert friend... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1 We identified only a single outbreak in an outdoor environment, which involved two cases. Conclusions: All identified outbreaks of three or more cases occurred in an indoor environment, which confirms that sharing indoor space is a major SARS-CoV-2 infection risk. Below is why we're seeing a trend of doctors reevaluating the use of ventilators with this disease and holding off longer than they normally would before moving to the vent. If you're over 65 and go on a ventilator your chances of survival are very, very slim. If you're under 65, they're still pretty bad. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765184?guestAccessKey=28639c30-edee-405e-9618-1be71e09426b&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_jama&utm_term=3293878934&utm_campaign=article_alert&linkId=87122161 Mortality for those who received mechanical ventilation was 88.1% (n = 282). Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively.

Of course it's not across the board. Nothing is when making general statements. But my dumbass family is pretty representative of the overall rural southern population and let me tell ya, it ain't promising.

Nah, I think lack of education is a huge part of it. You can go out and enjoy those freedoms while still responsibly socially distancing, etc. It's not a black and white either/or issue, but to some people (stupid people) it is.

The south is gonna be a problem. At least out here we have a high education rate, etc. I think the majority of people will listen. The south... oh wee mayne.

It definitely is. All the antibody testing done so far suggests that the real number of cases outpaces confirmed cases by several magnitudes, which makes sense given the overall lack of testing and the fact that most cases are either asymptomatic or relatively mild. Most of those people didn't qualify for a test anyway.

The antibody testing here in CO is SUPER limited. Hopefully it'll be able to give us a little better vague idea as to the total number of cases truly out there though.

I'm honestly glad I'm not in governors' shoes right now to make these calls, but I understand why there's such a push to reopen economies right now. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't right now. Reopen too soon and you'll create a second wave. Don't reopen soon enough and you've recreated the Great Depression. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-recession-turning-into-the-great-depression-ii-amid-job-losses-141615099.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bad-might-think-great-depression-110009141.html What we really need is a widespread testing program with contact tracing and for people to actually adhere to social distancing guidelines, wear masks, and wash their damn hands. But vaguely understanding the stupidity of the average person, good luck with that.

I just know how it worked in the defense industry. Those contracts were agreed upon before the legislation was ever signed. One of the companies I repped for was under the L3 Technologies umbrella. That outfit was shady as FUG. They've since merged with Harris Corporation which if anything is even shadier, but they use that shadiness to rake in billions in government contracts.

Let's be honest, the only way a big infrastructure bill gets passed is if some large construction companies use some lobbyists to line some pockets to get a sweetheart deal passed where they already have the contracts landed behind closed doors. That's the way big government spending works.

Retail is gonna get crushed. They were already badly struggling to compete against ecommerce and this will likely be the death blow for many of them. Unfortunately, retail jobs make up about 12% our total jobs.

Nah man, if you're still breathing you ain't out of moves yet. Just think, Marty Hurney is still cashing paychecks as an NFL GM. There's hope for us all.

They're already skyrocketing. This will just keep the trend going. Sorry you're in this spot. I'm already there. What's really frustrating for me is that I had a startup business going and had agreements from five more distributors to bring me on this summer. That would've given me a total of 22 states. None have completely backed out on me as of yet, but timing went from "this summer" to "???". So, in the meantime I've launched another line that has been picked up by the two biggest online retailers in the game. Initial orders should be within the next 3-4 weeks.

Scheduled for an antibody test next Thursday!

The ski and snowboard industry is going to get HAMMERED by this. For the resorts, this hit right before spring break which is one of their windows of opportunity. It also shortened the season here in CO by about two months. For the equipment manufacturers and retailers, there is going to be a TON of this year's inventory people are still sitting on. That stuff would usually be getting blown out at discounted prices right now. No one is buying gear now. No retailers are going to want to bring in next year's catalog while they're still sitting on a ton of this year's inventory. The real gut punch is if there is a second wave next fall. A lot of resorts are already making contingency plans for if there is a delayed opening next year. Some industry people are whispering behind closed doors that it's possible there won't be a season next year. If that happens, the corporatization of the ski and snowboarding industry will be complete. The big outfits like Vail Resorts and Intrawest will get bailed out, all the independents will go belly up and Vail Resorts and Intrawest will use their bailout money to buy them up.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1271028/Angela-Merkel-Germany-China-coronavirus-blame-Wuhan-Xi-Jinping-Trump-latest?fbclid=IwAR2b8A_IBhZ0FoSyW2rg8aFYZvSru4j1UPkLGFC-SOyb7gR6t-E4Dnko8Ik

I think there's gonna have to be some serious wrist slapping for that message to resonate. My wife's office is literally going back to business as usual on Monday. Her boss was sending out texts of jubilation during the presser while my wife and all of her coworkers were texting each other "WTF?! Is she actually listening to the words coming out of this man's mouth???"

Yeah, we're making our call based on some really good data and modeling, but the governor is up there pleading with people to let employees work from home whenever possible and to still try to stay at home as much as possible. The presser is still going on and my wife just got a text for a celebratory conference call starting in two minutes since "we'll be back to business as usual on Monday!" Sigh... Even though this decision is based on good data and modeling, it still relies on people not being idiots and in my experience that's always setting yourself up for disappointment.