LinvilleGorge

Eagles are gonna sign every injury plagued player in the league. Traded for a MLB coming off a torn ACL. Traded for a QB coming off of a 2nd torn ACL and every other injury under the sun, signing a RB who is seemingly never healthy. Their IR list is gonna be impressive this year.

I think it'll ultimately come down to simply whether or not Long wants to keep playing because the only type of deal I see him getting is a prove it type deal. I can't see anyone offering him significant guaranteed money unless one of these teams that has to spend to get to the cap floor rolls the dice offers him a front loaded deal that allows them to bring him in and spend the money they have to spend this year while not tying themselves up with long-term cap implications.

I get that. The only way I'd be for it would be a deal structured in a manner that would let us walk away with minimal risk if it didn't work out. If the deal had to involve significant guaranteed money, I'd pass.

Right now our "issue" is that Cam and his agent want to wait for Luck's and Wilson's deals to be done to set the market. We put ourselves in that situation by not getting his deal done sooner.

But that's what I'm saying, what's the downside? If he can't play, we release him with minimal cap damage. I don't think you sign him and then sit back and say that all of our OT concerns are solved, let's scratch that completely off the board. If he can, great. We get a serviceable plug and play LT on the cheap and Oher and Remmers battle it out for RT. You still absolutely look to add a young stud in the draft if the opportunity is there.

Chip Kelly looking pretty uncomfortable at his presser right now. Talking about trading McCoy for Kiko pointing out that they had two guys coming off of injury at the LB position completely ignoring the fact that Kiko is coming off of a torn ACL himself.

How in the world do you define low risk then? If signing a 29 year old former All-Pro LT with injury concerns to a team friendly prove it type deal isn't low risk, then what is?

Spoken like a true terrible "fan". The type of "fan" who would rather his debbie downer attitudes be supported and the team suffer, rather than a real fan who would rather be proven wrong and see the team succeed.

How is it not low risk? The injuries are irrelevant if there's little guaranteed money. If he can't play, we're right back to where we were before. If he can play and plays well, big win. Hence low risk, high reward. I don't think we pass on an OT that we like early in the draft because we have the likes of Long and Oher on the roster if that's what you're worried about.

The only way we land a 29 year old former All-Pro LT is if he comes with some issues. I would imagine any contract we'd extend to him would feature minimal guaranteed money and likely heavily laden with incentives. That's why I say it's low risk, potential high reward.

If he can pass a physical and still wants to play, I agree. Low risk, high potential reward.

This. For most teams, their bottom of the roster guys contribute on special teams. Last year, we had a bunch of bottom of the roster type WRs who didn't contribute on special teams - I'm talking about Cotchery, Avant, Bersin, and Brown. Those are #4 type WRs at best. That isn't acceptable. Look at Boykin not as a potential #2, but perhaps a potential replacement for a guy like Bersin.

I'm just waiting for people to realize that we're less than 24 hours into free agency and there's still an entire NFL draft that lies ahead.

Am I living in some twilight zone? I completely understand why the Lions didn't want to pay Suh as if he's an elite QB, but is the NFLN really trying to sell people on the idea that a 31 year old Haloti Ngata coming off of a season in which he was suspended for a banned substance is equal to or perhaps even superior to Suh on the field? Dafuq? Suh averages 7 sacks per season. Ngata averages under 3. Suh averages 36 tackles per season. Ngata averages 31. Ngata is a space eater for the Lions if he isn't washed up, but he's nowhere near the disruptive force that Suh is.

Yes, you savant you. You are one of the exclusive few who have figured out that the Panthers need more receiving weapons for Cam Newton. How did you ever figure this out? It's not like it's one of the most popular topics of conversation about the Panthers both on this forum and in the media.

In terms of historic day one prospects (first three rounds), seems like we're really keying in on OT, DE, and CB. Curiously, I haven't seen much if any talk of visits with WR prospects.

Not just that, but a legit #2 would open up a lot of opportunities for those guys. If you have two legit outside guys to keep the D honest, now you free up a guy like Ginn to go deep against a safety or nickelback. I like that. It helps the OL because it means maybe some guys can actually get open. It helps Olsen because now maybe he gets more LB matchups instead of drawing a DB. It helps the running game because now we have receiving options to keep them honest so that they can't stack the box on every down.

Evidently the draft no longer exists.

This line of thinking really perplexes me. The way I see it, the only sure lock to make the roster at WR is KB. I don't think we signed Ginn just to cut him and I do think we like Brown, but I don't see either of those guys as untouchable. Cotchery's dead money and cap hit are a near wash. We wouldn't lose any significant cap space by cutting him, but we wouldn't really gain anything either. He's definitely not a sure thing to be on the roster. Right now, we have one starting caliber NFL WR and a bunch of #4 WR type guys. If we added a legit #2 WR either through FA or the draft, I know exactly where he'd play - opposite KB.

Ain't nobody gonna agree to take less in order to go to Jacksonville.

Certainly not the secondary FA market WR I hoped we'd be looking into, that's for sure. Gotta try to improve the entire roster, I get that. But, damn. Did we actively try to seek out a WR that might actually be slower than Jerricho Cotchery?

Now this would actually make sense. Your bottom of the roster WRs usually contribute on special teams.

This. When I first heard the trade, I thought it was Foles for Bradford and the Rams' 2nd rounder. I thought that was a pretty decent deal for the Eagles. But, once the full details came out? LOL! My poor buddy is a huge Eagles fan, every bit as big of an Eagles fan as I am a Panthers fan, and he texted me when the details were still murky, "The more and more that comes out about this trade the more I feel like Chip got screwed." Hours after the full details became available he texted, "I'm still stunned at badly the Rams used Chip. You guys should probably call him up. Maybe he'd give you a 3rd and 4th for Cotchery."

Chip got RAPED. He gave up Foles, a 4th this year and a 2nd next year for Bradford and a conditional pick that maxes out at a 3rd rounder.

When Gettleman goes car shopping... I'm just having fun with this now.