LinvilleGorge

A good family friend is in his early 70s and heading down the road of dementia. He's basically drinking himself into a stupor on a daily basis and I honestly think it's to escape the dementia. Sometimes I wonder if he's literally trying to drink himself to death. It sucks to watch good people dealing with this poo. With Jackson's reported ongoing CTE symptoms he could've been in a similar situation.

If there wasn't a Trevor Lawrence available Wilson would probably be the #1 overall pick, but teams aren't just looking at a player's ceiling they're also looking at the floor. IMO, Lawrence's floor is significantly higher. It's difficult to imagine Lawrence being a complete bust with his physical tools, consistency, and level of competition. Wilson has very intriguing physical tools, but he also has some injury history and hasn't played against top competition. It's a lot easier to envision Wilson being a bust than Lawrence and I say that as a guy who is high as a giraffe's ass on Wilson.

That's literally the reason.

Kyler Murray? He can RUN run. Mahomes and Wilson can run because people are terrified of their arm.

I said it in the draft subforum. You can't take Wilson over Lawrence because Lawrence has a much higher floor but it won't shock me if in ten years looking back that Wilson turns out to be the guy. Lawrence is Luck 2.0. He checks every box. It's tough to imagine him being an outright bust.

You can hardly contain yourself with the erotic thoughts of an old moneyed white man "teaching a lesson" to a young talented black man stepping out of line. Maybe they are dumb enough to cut off their own nose to spite their face but they'll have to tank their organization to do it and Watson will still end up eventually playing elsewhere

He doesn't need to. Yet.

Firings? Of the guys they just hired? The hiring decisions/non-decisions evidently were the straws that broke the camel's back for Watson in Houston. That's on ownership, not the guys they hired.

What if he sits out? What if he's tearing the locker room apart. Undermining the staff and front office? At some point, a situation gets to the point of toxicity that the trade haul you're going to get greatly outweighs trying to keep him. It sounds like that bridge is likely already burned.

I'd rather give up Jackson than the others, but I definitely noted that D-Jax's name came out of Fitts' mouth very early when he was talking about our promising young players.

We've seen way too many promising rookies still end up flopping as pros. It's not like YGM lit it up in an every down role like Chinn. He just showed promise in a relatively limited role. If I'm the Texans I tell you to forget that YGM talk. I want Burns.

Yep. The track record is proven, even when I'd greatly prefer it to be wrong. *cough* Greg Little *cough*

Sigh... twist my arm... Whitehead and Boston it is.

There's no guarantee but it's about the closest thing to a guarantee that exists in player acquisition.

Oh, we definitely botched it. I think trading a mid-round pick for Minshew and his cheap contract would be most likely. Better than Teddy. Minimal cap impact. I hate being right when it hurts the Panthers. I was pissed about the Teddy signing from day one. I have no clue why we expected anything other than exactly what we got. I would've been much happier about drafting Herbert and being dead wrong about him.

Our reaction: The entire rest of the NFL's reaction:

I don't think it'll be Teddy. We'll trade for a Minshew or sign a Trubisky before we roll Teddy back out there again IMO. That bridge was burned so long ago the coals have grown cold.

I don't think anyone is trading for #3 before they know for sure who's going to be there.

I can't see it happening. I really think that if it's not a QB we're going to trade down and accumulate pickup more picks. Outside chance of taking a LT or CB, but I think trade down would be the most likely scenario. Rumor is that Rhule wanted to trade down last year. Fitts comes from the Seahawks who love trading down.

Meh... go big or go home. The guy already has generational wealth. Trust yourself and your people to make the right call. One of the big reasons why the Panthers are a ringless organization is due to historical organizational risk aversion. When given a choice, we have historically almost always chosen the safest path available. We've historically been Teddy Bridgewater. Ron Rivera. John Fox. Though the later two better capture our overall essence. Good enough to have brushes with greatness, too conservative to capture the prize.

If Zach Wilson ends up going #2, most if not all of those phones calls are gonna turn into...

That or to fill a glaring hole at a huge position of need when you have a franchise QB. If we had a franchise QB currently, I wouldn't be opposed to trading a 1st for a LT or legit starting CB. Those would be justifiable moves IMO.

I was just trying to give you an out on one of the more absurdly ridiculous Huddle trade posts ever. Congrats.

The big benefit of 1st rounders IMO is they're absolutely your best opportunity to add elite talent for the best value. I wouldn't trade 1st round picks wantonly but legit franchise QBs are the hardest roster piece to find and they're required if you want to compete for Super Bowls.

1st rounders are hugely valuable, but I feel like Panthers fans have a distorted view of that value. For the most part under Hurney, only 1st round picks mattered. The majority of the rest of the picks might as well have been spent on drafting Huddlers. The results wouldn't have changed significantly.