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That makes him what? Jared Goff? The Rams just traded him and two 1sts for Matt Stafford. That's not good enough.

He talked at length in December about what he was going through. He said the doctors said he'd get back to 100% but that his hip would never internally rotate like it used to and to the degree that it used to. Now, I might be crazy but that doesn't sound like 100% to me. He also talked about the mental strain that puts on you knowing that you can't physically do the things you used to be able to do. It sounds like the mental part might be the sticking point. He'll either find a way to adapt to his new normal or he won't.

I didn't say he was a gimp. I said he was a shadow of his former self physically. Cam was too but he's still a far better running threat than most NFL QBs, just nothing like he used to be.

It's very possible. If Fitts values a big arm I can't see him being high on Jones.

I wouldn't say definitely. Gotta have a team willing to play ball to trade down and gotta outbid any and all other potential trade partners too.

The ability to rotate the hips and drive the ball with your lower body drastically impacts your "arm".

I'm talking about just what I've seen from him physically. He's not the same athlete he was before. He's said so himself.

I would disagree with that. Tua looks line a shadow of his former self IMO.

I wouldn't argue against it. Arm talent is about the same IMO and Teddy definitely has the mobility advantage.

I don't think Jones is garbage, I just think he has some serious physical talent deficiencies. In terms of physical tools, I don't think he's a bit more talented than Teddy.

Hell, he might be. But there's a reason why Brady was a 6th round pick. He defied a LOT of odds to become what he is. The draft isn't about determining what a guy MIGHT become, it's about determining what a guy is LIKELY to become.

I'm encouraged that we're aggressively seeking to upgrade the QB position. My concern is that if we strike out and if we miss out on the QB run in the draft, we're gonna do something dumb and reach on Mac Jones just because we desperately want to upgrade the QB position.

Yeah, that. #2.

There comes a point where the money is just a way to keep score. More of it isn't going to do anything to change your lifestyle. Personally, I wouldn't want anything to do with L.A. but depending on your preferences it's very easy to understand why someone would choose L.A. over Charlotte. They're very different places and honestly, after living in CO for 14 years and coming back to NC this past summer, the weather here fuging sucks. Hot as balls with sky high humidity all summer and way too many gloomy days in the winter. People who race about Charlotte weather haven't lived somewhere with actual good weather. Yeah, it's better than Buffalo, but there's a lot of other places with a lot better weather.

We were highly competitive in all but two games this season. Swap out Teddy for Stafford and I absolutely think we would've been in the playoffs hunt.

I'm not even talking about location. I'm talking about team situations. The Rams are an elite QB away from being a SB contender. We're probably an elite QB away from competing for a playoff berth. There's a big difference.

If this was the case we would've landed Stafford. We had a price we were willing to pay and when the bidding exceeded it we bowed out. Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, this worked out well for both parties. Stafford clearly wanted to be there and the Rams were clearly willing to do what it took to get him there. Now let's see if it works out on the field.

You don't need a stacked roster but you do need a decent one and decent coaching helps too. It's weird how only the QB carries a W-L record. Stafford actually has a very good track record of 4th quarter comebacks. You can only do so much as a QB when you're up against more talented better coached teams week in and week out.

Remember that stretch between '15 and '17 when the Browns only won four games over the course of three season? Yeah, that's how bad the Lions would've been without Stafford.

Rams vs. Panthers? I mean, homerism aside that's an easy choice right now.

That's why it won't be shocking if this goes from "we absolutely are not interested in trading the player in Houston to... *BREAKING NEWS* Deshaun Watson traded to (insert team here) in blockbuster deal *BREAKING NEWS*

I think we're desperate and that both excites me and concerns me. It excites me that we're going to be aggressive trying to address the QB position this off-season. It concerns me that we may A) gut our roster to trade for Watson, B) gut our roster to trade up, or C) reach on a QB after we miss out on the run.

He was a 7th round draft pick. If you make a final roster as a 7th rounder you were pretty much a successful draft pick.

McClover made about a million dollars over the course of three years. That's a helluva lot more than I made in my first three years out of college.