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O'Leary benefited greatly from having a great college QB. You're acting like he dominated. The guy had 600 receiving yards. Hell no to that guy in the 3rd. Not with the depth at WR in this class. I wouldn't even look at him until at least the 5th.
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How many snaps a game does Tolbert see? You really wanna spend a 3rd round pick on a less dynamic version of Tolbert?
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What I see in O'Leary is Jeff King with better hands. I just don't think the hands are gonna matter much because he's just too slow to get open in the NFL. Virtually every LB in the NFL is faster than this guy.
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I wouldn't be shocked if we cut Tolbert either. Wonder if he'd be willing to take a pay cut? Not a restructure, but a real pay cut. I just don't want to spend a 3rd round pick on a backup TE and utility type player.
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With that said, I'd be 100% okay with Collins at #25 and Fisher in the 2nd. In fact, I'd LOVE Fisher in the 2nd. He's my favorite OT in this draft. He'll probably go in the 1st.
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When is the last time a FB was drafted in the 3rd round? I think the guy has a decent chance to have a long NFL career as a #2 TE/H-back type player, I just don't see value in that type of guy in the 3rd round. Nor do I think he'll go that high after running like an OL. I think he has a better chance of going undrafted than he does of going in the 3rd
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I'll break my TV if we pick O'Leary in the 3rd round.
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Panthers NFL Draft Prospect - Justin Coleman
LinvilleGorge replied to Jeremy Igo's topic in Carolina Panthers
Someone is confused here, that's for sure. I don't think it's who you think it is though.- 34 replies
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Panthers NFL Draft Prospect - Justin Coleman
LinvilleGorge replied to Jeremy Igo's topic in Carolina Panthers
People obviously didn't think that about guys like Bene, Norman, Sherman, Maxwell, etc. either. Hence why they went in the mid-late rounds. There are steals and busts in every draft. Always have been, always will be.- 34 replies
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Yep, give me a vet OT with starting experience and a WR/KR/PR. IPR don't care about the names. Oher? Free? Ginn? Jones? Fine.
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There are no big name OTs available. Hell, Oher is probably the biggest.
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If we believe in Matsko and Matsko believes in Oher, then I'm down. Matsko worked with him for two years in Baltimore. He should know what he's getting, assuming Oher clears all the medical checks.
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Agree, but the other side of that equation is that great ones rarely actually hit the open market. Dunlap was set to be the best one this year and he basically had one good year. The Chargers still locked him up before he hit the market. Who is available out there that you'd be willing to dedicate big money to get? I can't name one.
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Thing is that no player is going to sign a long-term contract with little guaranteed money. It'd be dumb on their part. "Prove it contracts" aren't just because teams don't want to do long-term deals with the player, but because the player doesn't want it either. Long-term deals involve decent guaranteed dollars. That's just the way it works.
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Oher had a rough year last year, but I think he was struggling with an injury issue. If healthy, he's better than Bell and of we can get him fairly cheap I'd be all for it. You're not gonna get a great LT in FA unless you're willing to PAY big time. Oher is about as good as we can expect to get. Bring him in and let him compete. Hopefully an early draft pick will be added as well. Let Oher, Remmers, and the rookie(s) battle it out to figure out starting RT and LT.
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WTF is this about a Dez Bryant video worse than Ray Rice's?
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Either the video doesn't actually exist or whoever has the video is trying to get PAID for it. If that's the case, Dez Bryant should be all over that. -
I'm not knocking him as a football player. I think he's a helluva football player, I just don't see him playing safety in the NFL.
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Better know a Prospect - Jake Fisher
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12 sacks in the two games he missed. 19 total in the 13 games that he played. -
Better know a Prospect - Jake Fisher
LinvilleGorge replied to Jeremy Igo's topic in Carolina Panthers
Look at Oregon stats in the games he played vs. the ones he didn't play. They're staggering. If Fisher is there at #25, I WANT HIM. -
We can only hope. It would be AMAZING to pull off getting both of those guys back for appropriate market value. Good for them taking advantage of the Cards and Steelers who went full fuging retard with those contracts.
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I'm glad that he's not returning, because no matter who else we brought in, you know Rivera would give Bell every chance to retain his starting job. Rivera loved him some Byron Bell. I never hated Bell. I hated that we were forced to play him, but there was never any bad press about Bell. Every indication is that he is a good guy and gave his all. He just didn't have the talent to be a starting NFL OT. I would've liked to have kept him as a backup, but I know Ron would've wanted to play him and Dave probably did too. Hell, I hope somebody pays him way more than he's worth.
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I say make an offer right now. We know exactly how Ginn fits into our organization both on the field and in the locker room. Bring him in as a PR and give him a chance to compete at WR. I'd still look to draft another WR. The only change it would make for me is that I probably wouldn't be looking to double dip at WR now.
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If we added Ginn, I don't see the need for another vet. Draft me another one in the first three rounds and I'm willing to call the WR corps good to go.