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Bryce standom taken to an all new level. Wow.

But that's totally different because they're the "real fans".

2/4 for 19 yards and a near INT with Rico doing the heavy lifting is exactly the type of "game winning drive" we have to pull off with Bryce. Classic example of the "too much credit" side of the "the QB usually gets too much credit when things are going well and too much blame when they aren't" dichotomy. We chose to trot out an inexperienced kicker to try a near 50 yarder in windy conditions because we were terrified of having Bryce throw another pass. That says everything.

It's comical watching people act like the people who want us to try to get a QB that's above bottom of the barrel are the people who hate the Panthers while they gleefully cheer being stuck in QB purgatory.

T-Mac absolutely looks the part of a top 10 draft pick and bonafide #1 WR. To be a top rookie with a QB who struggles to throw for 150 yards is incredible.

Yeah, if you can't make it in this QB room you just ain't NFL caliber. Like not even close.

It's amazing that this same guy is now trying to do the whole "fan policing" act.

I don't care. All that matters is the results. If it works, fine. If it doesn't I hope they stop doing it going forward.

Seems like it. Honestly if I'm the coach I'm just telling them to fire me now. How in the hell am I getting another job after I go out there and face plant with what's left of this roster?

Wow. They're tearing it down to the studs. Well... I guess more like to the ground since they're trading the studs. LOL Wonder what their plan is? It might be a reach assuming they have one.

They gave up a LOT. They're definitely all in on this Daniel Jones resurgence even after he went full Daniel Jones on Sunday.

It's the new whiter version of Ked Woodley LOL

That's what I thought too but I just talked to my NY buddy (albeit a Giants fan not Jets) and evidently Sauce has been getting killed by local media this year. Evidently he's fallen off considerably.

I've long thought the NFL overvalues draft picks. Like I get it, the draft is by far your best bet at landing talent at a value but at the same time, it's also a crap shoot. If you can land solid proven vet talent with one of those long shot mid-round picks that's probably a smart move especially if you're a good team with an obvious hole or two. The Rams built a SB team and still have a good team by treating premium draft picks largely as pure trade bait.

100%. They basically have the offense we wish we had. They're entirely reliant on Jonathan Taylor making it run. If he goes down they're probably cooked. If they have to lean on Jones it'll probably get ugly fast.

Yeah, I think they just told the league that they're fully planning on signing Daniel Jones long-term. I think that's a move they'll regret but we'll see how it plays out for them. For their sake I hope they have the big picture items of the deal basically already hammered out because they just handed his agent a ton of leverage dealing away two 1sts.

That's the modern NFL offense. The majority of the passing game is quick hitters but with enough deep shots mixed in to keep the D honest.

Opponents are going to adapt. If I'm facing the Panthers as a HC I'm telling my DC that we better not lose this game because Rico goes for 150+ and we aren't selling out against the run. We need to be playing run first D on everything but 3rd and 10+. We have to force Bryce Young to beat us with his arm. I want to see heavy fronts and stacked boxes all game long. If Rico STILL beats us then well damn, hats off.

I don't look at any particular individual metric, more the bigger picture. If you're near the top of the league in most metrics you're probably playing pretty well. If you're near the bottom in most you're probably ass. The tougher ones to sort out are the guys who are a mixed bag.

He's still human. When you go out and fail over and over again it's going to impact you. And yeah, I absolutely think Fields looks like (and talks) like a guy who is really struggling with his confidence as a player and for good reason.

I've always thought it odd that the QB is the only guy in the roster who carries a record. If a RB puts up 1200 yards but the team sucks then everyone still says the RB had a good year. If a QB puts up good numbers put the D is atrocious and the win loss record isn't great due to that then the narrative is that the QB can't win. Now that we're finding a way to win with suddenly dominant D and dominate running game people are trying to shift to this "Bryce is just a winner" narrative while he puts up bottom of the league numbers while near the top of the league in turnovers. It's just funny to watch.

I mean, he'd have to be delusional to still have a high degree of confidence in his abilities on an NFL field. When he tried to make a confident downfield throw this week it ended in a god awful throw that was easily picked. He can take shots downfield but they have to be the perfect opportunities. If the pocket is muddy at all he can't go downfield. Just don't even try.

At least with the Allen and Walker defenders there was some argument to be made that we were getting at least the expected level of play out of an afterthought of a player. I mean, the vibe around Bryce would be completely different if he was a UDFA or 7th rounder. I don't think anyone (well, okay maybe not anyone but at least very few) would be trying to delude themselves into believing he was the answer but a lot of people would be happy for the youngster holding it together and at least not just flat out losing us games.

I mean, Dalton is incredibly washed up at this point. We did play differently with Dalton in the past. Dalton has just regressed to Bryce level as a passer except with 40 year old legs

Probably. I mean, when Bryce gets hit there's a decent chance he fumbles. He probably has the highest hit:fumble ratio in the league if someone tracks that metric.