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By forgoing the opportunity to draft a franchise QB we did mortgage the future on Darnold. Ultimately, this draft will be judged by A) whether Darnold pans out and B) whether Fields and/or Jones become legit franchise QBs. If Darnold continues to be bad while one or both of them prove legit then oh wee mayne. Not a good look and not good news for the future of the franchise.

Yep. Pro Day times are often much better than Combine times. Sometimes suspiciously so. Remember when Funchess ran 4.7 at the Combine then magically ran sub-4.5 at his Pro Day? Sure...

People lost their minds when I said the Panthers have mortgaged their future on Sam Darnold, then Gantt of Panthers.com writes... The Panthers did a lot of things over the weekend to make Darnold's life more secure. That's good news, but it also puts the bright light back on their quarterback. By not drafting one, and picking up Darnold's fifth-year option, they've cast their lot with the former Jets first-rounder, and done their best to insulate him. Now it's on him to prove that he can grow into the job and earn that trust. It may not be New York, but there's still plenty of pressure. That's NFL political talk for "mortgaging the future".

He'll have to show up and ball out to have a chance at the final roster. I think this staff is pretty much done with him.

Rhule specifically said post-draft that they viewed Taylor as a CB, but we'll see.

Ouch. I was reading an article the other day that was basically saying this has been something that the players have been pushing for awhile now (working out away from the team during the off-season) and they're using COVID as an opportunity to push it harder. One of those catch 22 situations IMO. I can definitely understand why some players would rather work out on their own with their own S&C folks but I can definitely also understand why the team would want them working out in their facilities with their S&C folks. At the end of the day, if you get hurt working out on your own there's no way for the team to know for sure that you weren't just training like an idiot basically asking for something like this to happen. But, James is an idiot to admit it happened working out? Hell naw, freak damn thing. I was just walking uo the stairs and my poo just blew up on me. Damnedest thing I tell ya. Oh, you don't believe me? Cool. Prove it.

Damn. Maybe it's just my own misperception, but Achilles injuries seem a lot more common these days than they were 20+ years ago. I remember when it happened to Ronald Curry at UNC I was like, wait... that's a thing that can actually happen?

I don't think it can get any better. He looked like he had two left feet at the Combine drills. I mean, he looked atrocious. He just didn't look like a football player or even a natural athlete.

Honestly, refs should love to have this taken off their plate. It allows them to watch for other aspects of the game and one less thing for them to be criticized over.

If I'm Joe and Phil was banging the table for a defensive guy in the 2nd it would've gone something like "Phil, love ya bro but we've made 8 draft picks since we've been here and not a damn one of them plays on my side of the ball. So with all due respect and all, please STFU."

LOL @ Howie Roseman running around like It's amazing he's still their GM.

Good. If there isn't some back and forth during the draft then you probably have an environment of a bunch of useless yes men.

Say what? Favre was a 2nd round pick in Atlanta who the head coach absolutely did not want. He threw a total of four passes in his one season as a Falcon and was then traded for a 1st round pick to the Packers where he failed his physical due to a degenerative hip condition that Packers doctors thought would prematurely end his career but Packers brass didn't give AF a overruled them because they wanted him THAT bad.

Darnold has probably been the worst QB in the NFL over the past three seasons. I think it's gonna take a little more than just learning the playbook. We aren't exactly just plugging in Aaron Rodgers.

That, plus genetics are real

Of course it does. Almost every draft bust ends up getting a shot somewhere else before their career ultimately fizzles out, especially 1st round QBs. It just seems rare because the success rate is so abysmally low.

I wish he'd asked a follow up question here about the hit rate on bust reclamation projects. This comment definitely gives some legs to my earlier speculation that this staff might just be scared of rookie QBs.

My Eagles fan buddy hates Howie Roseman with about the same intensity I hated Hurney. That's intense.

If you were moving my office to SC, I'd resign too.

Now if that happens then all bets are off.

Von Miller hasn't looked like Von Miller in awhile. I think he's done as a top tier edge rusher. Still a nice player to have, but no longer the cornerstone of a defense.

Yeah, I'm not seeing that. This isn't 2015 anymore. Denver's defense is pretty run of the mill. You're not hanging with Mahomes and that howitzer of an offense in KC with Teddy and his pop gun.

Hey, works for me as a Heels fan! But I just don't see it. He was missing his #1 WR and both RBs in the bowl game against the #1 D in the SEC facing a team with zero opt-outs looking to prove they were snubbed from the playoffs and he still looked like Sam Howell. Even at the NFL level, you just don't see many guys who can throw the deep ball like he can.

5 QBs in the top 15? Nah. No way. Next year's class is Howell and Rattler then a massive drop off absent someone making a Burrow-esque rise.

We thought Jarrett was more awesome since he was our first pick in the 2nd. Either way, we didn't get a chance to draft Beck. He was already off the board. He would've been a typical Hurney 2nd rounder. At least he was a helluva nice guy.