LinvilleGorge

If we lose to the Jets this Sunday... oh wee mayne. This fanbase has been through some rough times before, but that might hit a new overall morale bottom.

Honestly, I think this will be a big focus of the next set of rule tweaks. OL play is down. Partly because all the jumbo athletes want to play defense and partly because today's spread offenses put more pressure on the OL and expose them a lot more to working in space. QBs are the highest paid position in the NFL by a pretty wide margin. Owners hate seeing their QBs take hits and fans hate to see their QBs get hurt. I think we'll see holding on the OL either get deemphasized or get the letter of the rule outright changed to give the OL an advantage. Just a hunch.

This. We've definitely seen a trend over the past decade or so toward an increasing value in overall mobility. If you want to throw the ball constantly with as many receivers as possible out running routes, you better have a QB who can move around a little bit or a damn bot like Brady who can surgically pick apart your defense in an instant. Well, there's only one Brady so everyone else is hedging toward mobility.

No one knocked pocket statues back in the 80s and 90s. It's absolutely a knock on a QB prospect these days.

We haven't seen a shift toward "running" QBs, but we have seen a pretty dramatic shift in the value of mobility in QBs.

It might be a shorter list of the guys the Jets have who are actually available to play. Tough to remember a team getting hit this hard this early.

Great PR move. At the end of the day, they know virtually no one will bother.

Think about what a guy like Patrick Peterson could've done at CB back in the 70s and 80s when DBs could maul WRs. You basically have a small LB who moves like a CB and he can just manhandle the poo out of your WRs. Good luck with that.

By popular demand of the thread participants, this is back in the Panthers forum. We all know what comes next, but what the people want the people get.

I don't think the defenses are worse, I just think they're significantly handicapped by today's rules vs. the rules of years past.

The casual fan wants to watch high flying, high scoring games. The NFL isn't dumb. They do market research. They know this. They see which games draw the biggest ratings and generate the most buzz. As long as the casual fan wants high flying, high scoring games the NFL will continue to tweak the rules to encourage that style of football. It is what it is.

Hey, if you guys want it back over there I'll do it. But don't report any posts and don't complain when it inevitably turns turns into a poo show. Whatya say? Yay or nay?

Feel whatever you want. I just get tired of watching the trolls berate Cam but evidently y'all love it. Weird, but hey... whatever.

Bingo.

That's the thing, it's his website. Funny how y'all want this left in the main forum where you absolutely know it would soon turn into an utter poo show and flame war that would then have y'all begging for the mods to clean this place up. Moving it here actually gives it a chance to remain a productive conversation without the inevitable troll fest which was honestly my primary reason for moving it. But whiners gonna whine.

It's the regular season. We've always shifted to keeping the Panthers forum Panthers only during the regular season (I should add with the one notable exception of active game day threads for other NFL games going on) after treating it as a football catch-all in the off-season. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger Cam fan than me but this isn't a Panthers topic, hence why it's not in the Panthers sub-forum. I left a link so that people participating in the thread could find it and wouldn't think it got deleted.

6'3" 214 and he'll likely add another 10 pounds or so over the next year or two. Meanwhile

The casual fan wants to see high flying high scoring football. They want to see Pac12 score in the NFL and those are the fans that ultimately drive viewership and revenue.

I'd settle for it simply to be called fairly. Every flag in the refs' pockets would've been laying on the field if the roles were reversed on that play and that's just straight up handicapping the defense.

The Bucs would've won by a comfortable margin without the turnover issues. The Cowboys won the turnover battle 4-1 and still lost. That's hard to pull off. Your odds of losing an NFL game when you're +3 in the turnover margin are probably in the single digits.

You gotta be a masochist to want to play CB in today's game. Breathe in a receiver and flags litter the field. Be in perfect position to defend a pass and get two hand shoved to the turf and the entire football world celebrates Brady's greatness. Those are some hard to swallow pills right there.

Yeah it was, but it's Brady.

All over but the crying now.

Gronk is comically slow these days but the guy just keeps making plays.

That's a big penalty forced to use the timeout to avoid the runoff.