LinvilleGorge

Oh god, you're still acting like you're someone's mentor? That's hilarious.

If you would've drafted Fields at #3 and passed on him at #8 because of trading a 2nd round pick and a couple of mid-rounders for a former bust, oh wee the fug mayne. Successful organizations draft QBs in the 1st with aging MVPs in the roster.

Inquiring. Not offering. We were negotiating with the Jets reportedly for weeks. There was no one else involved. I'm willing to "see past my own view" if you provide evidence to the contrary. But you're deep down in your own trench lobbing grenades with your fingers in your ears.

There may have been a scenario where they would've been interested, but that scenario didn't develop. Teams explore backup plans all the time. We were the only team that got deep enough into the Rolodex that it dialed up Darnold.

If we would've drafted Fields at #3 and passed on him at #8, oh wee mayne.

Show me the offers. Show me reports of the offers. There were no reports of any other actual offers. Teams talk all the time. Teams explore options all the time. Darnold didn't have enough value to any other team to illicit any other offer. That's what the information available screams. If you have another point of view, fine. But I'd like to see what you're basing it on.

No they didn't. They thought there might be a scenario where he was better than their current rusted out pinto. Kinda like the guy looking at the rusted out pinto because his current ride is spewing smoke and sounding like someone shaking a coke can full of gravel. Yeah, it might suck but damn, it's gotta be better than what I have right now.

Interested enough to kick the tires and not make an offer? No, it's not. Teams make contingency plans too. I don't think Darnold was anyone else's primary plan at any point this off-season.

Here's what I know for sure. For all my life the Packers have been a competitive organization. Odds are that'll continue. Meanwhile, we're Panthers fans. We really don't get to question the decisions of organizations like the Packers, Steelers, Patriots, etc. Their track record speaks for itself.

Rodgers is already the third oldest MVP winners in NFL history. Like I said, Father Time is undefeated. It's really no a controversial concept to suggest that it's strongly likely that Rodgers begins to decline soon.

That's what you say when you're the seller. Let me tell you right now, no one actually believed that.

I can show interest in a brand new Corvette. The salesman might be really excited. Meanwhile, I have no interest in actually buying it. You're either making an offer or you're not.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Sam Darnold bucks trends and becomes a great QB for us. But odds are that we're gonna be QB shopping again next year and it's gonna be ugly around these parts of that's the case and Fields is looking promising in Chicago. I just hope Darnold does us a solid and either balls out or completely bombs and doesn't leave us hanging still wondering after one season. Purgatory is not where you want to be.

Father Time may jettison him from the ranks of elite QBs soon anyway. That's a big part of what the Packers were hedging against.

Taking a look isn't an actual suitor. Putting an actual actionable offer on the table is a suitor. I haven't seen any indication that the Jets received any actual offer other than ours.

Look at the numbers. He was three years removed from MVP caliber play. The list of high level near 40 year old QBs is very, very short. GB is simply playing the odds.

Based on recent Broncos QB drafting, them passing on a QB might be a strong predictor of success for that QB. Getting drafted by those guys has been a kiss of death.

No one else who was an actual NFL decision maker did or we wouldn't have been able to get Darnold for a 2nd rounder and pocket change. By all accounts we were the only suitor for Darnold and likely could've gotten him for less had we drove a harder bargain.

Father Time is undefeated. They got Rodgers by understanding that when Favre was at a similar age.

He wasn't "struggling" but he was years removed from MVP caliber play. Enter Jordan Love and *poof* Rodgers is the MVP again. The two things aren't unrelated.

Oh I'm fully aware, but they had another one in Favre when they drafted him. They liked Love a lot and Rodgers was at a similar age so they took him. It's why I didn't want to pass on Fields due to Darnold being on the roster. You have to keep swinging until you find the answer. I just really hope that we simply weren't high on Fields because if we were and we passed that was a big mistake.

Not for getting MVP caliber play. Even if Love is a bust, if they get two years of MVP caliber play out of Rodgers then he forces his trade and they bring in a haul for him that pick will have been a massive success.

I won't get super concerned unless it's the same story at camp next year. I just hope we field a decent OL this year. I was pounding the table for Wyatt Davis but I hope Christensen turns out to be the far better pro. We'll see.

Whether rightly or wrongly, seemingly everyone had Wilson rated significantly higher than Fields. I was driving that Wilson train hard on here until it became obvious that he was a pipedream at #8.

Part of that pick was about re-energizing Aaron Rodgers. He was three years removed from MVP caliber play. Regardless of how Love turns out, that part of the plan went perfectly to plan.