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He completed 2 passes for 19 yards and then nearly threw an INT at which point we took the ball out of his hands and relied on Rico to drag us into long FG range and an inexperienced kicker to try a near 50 yarder in windy conditions because that was a better option than having Bryce throw another pass. Has it been windy for the majority of Bryce's career? Because 200+ yard games are the anomaly.

Sure. Their schedule is soft but like us sitting at 5-4 with a pretty soft schedule too, you play who's on the schedule. They absolutely creamed us. I'm sure it wouldn't have been AS ugly if we were riding Rico but that wouldn't have closed at 29 point gap.

You're just too casual to understand that "winning automatically equals good QB play" like the true football connoisseurs.

While there are people on this site celebrating Bryce "winning the game" when he threw for 102 yards, 0 TDs, a pick, and an INT? Maye is a second year player who is top 5 in the league in practically every relevant QB metric this year.

I don't think it has. I just think the position has become more and more vital to success. The days of dragging the Trent Dilfers and Brad Johnsons of the world to Super Bowls are over. People will point to Nick Foles but that guy played out of his mind in that Super Bowl run. He didn't play like a Trent Dilfer, he caught lightning in a bottle and played like a Hall of Famer for a very brief but very key period.

Give me Sam Howell and draft another one. Canales rehabbed Baker Mayfield to the extent that it got him a head coaching gig. Skill set and mentality wise, Sam Howell is basically Baker Mayfield.

Bryce standom taken to an all new level. Wow.

But that's totally different because they're the "real fans".

2/4 for 19 yards and a near INT with Rico doing the heavy lifting is exactly the type of "game winning drive" we have to pull off with Bryce. Classic example of the "too much credit" side of the "the QB usually gets too much credit when things are going well and too much blame when they aren't" dichotomy. We chose to trot out an inexperienced kicker to try a near 50 yarder in windy conditions because we were terrified of having Bryce throw another pass. That says everything.

It's comical watching people act like the people who want us to try to get a QB that's above bottom of the barrel are the people who hate the Panthers while they gleefully cheer being stuck in QB purgatory.

T-Mac absolutely looks the part of a top 10 draft pick and bonafide #1 WR. To be a top rookie with a QB who struggles to throw for 150 yards is incredible.

Yeah, if you can't make it in this QB room you just ain't NFL caliber. Like not even close.

It's amazing that this same guy is now trying to do the whole "fan policing" act.

I don't care. All that matters is the results. If it works, fine. If it doesn't I hope they stop doing it going forward.

Seems like it. Honestly if I'm the coach I'm just telling them to fire me now. How in the hell am I getting another job after I go out there and face plant with what's left of this roster?

Wow. They're tearing it down to the studs. Well... I guess more like to the ground since they're trading the studs. LOL Wonder what their plan is? It might be a reach assuming they have one.

They gave up a LOT. They're definitely all in on this Daniel Jones resurgence even after he went full Daniel Jones on Sunday.

It's the new whiter version of Ked Woodley LOL

That's what I thought too but I just talked to my NY buddy (albeit a Giants fan not Jets) and evidently Sauce has been getting killed by local media this year. Evidently he's fallen off considerably.

I've long thought the NFL overvalues draft picks. Like I get it, the draft is by far your best bet at landing talent at a value but at the same time, it's also a crap shoot. If you can land solid proven vet talent with one of those long shot mid-round picks that's probably a smart move especially if you're a good team with an obvious hole or two. The Rams built a SB team and still have a good team by treating premium draft picks largely as pure trade bait.

100%. They basically have the offense we wish we had. They're entirely reliant on Jonathan Taylor making it run. If he goes down they're probably cooked. If they have to lean on Jones it'll probably get ugly fast.

Yeah, I think they just told the league that they're fully planning on signing Daniel Jones long-term. I think that's a move they'll regret but we'll see how it plays out for them. For their sake I hope they have the big picture items of the deal basically already hammered out because they just handed his agent a ton of leverage dealing away two 1sts.

That's the modern NFL offense. The majority of the passing game is quick hitters but with enough deep shots mixed in to keep the D honest.

Opponents are going to adapt. If I'm facing the Panthers as a HC I'm telling my DC that we better not lose this game because Rico goes for 150+ and we aren't selling out against the run. We need to be playing run first D on everything but 3rd and 10+. We have to force Bryce Young to beat us with his arm. I want to see heavy fronts and stacked boxes all game long. If Rico STILL beats us then well damn, hats off.

I don't look at any particular individual metric, more the bigger picture. If you're near the top of the league in most metrics you're probably playing pretty well. If you're near the bottom in most you're probably ass. The tougher ones to sort out are the guys who are a mixed bag.