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Lawrence was basically mediocre. He didn't do much to win a game but very importantly in this one he didn't do anything to lose the game which is what Bryce was busy doing on the other side of the ball. Don't forget that this game probably should've been 33-3 because we got bailed out of a pick six by an iffy call on the opposite side of the field and then scored a TD on the very next play. That was a 14 point swing right there

I think he has a chance and his mental makeup is a big part of why. I also think the Bears got a little complacent over the course of that game because the Vikings were completely inept on offense for most of it and once it started clicking for the Vikings the Bears couldn't get their head in the game and realize they had to wakeup and dial in again.

It looked like the same old trashy footwork to me. Bryce has never had good fundamentals footwork. He's always shuffled around square to the LOS and then once he sees where he wants to go he has to try to flip his hips and get his feet under him to deliver the throw. This was one of the things I would point out leading up to the draft as something that wasn't going to translate to the NFL.

Except at QB where they did the exact opposite and drafted a guy with none of the athletic measurables but just assumed he could translate his college production because super processor PG mentality, nevermind the reality that he'll no longer enjoy his team having a massive talent advantage over nearly every opponent.

You're not gonna turnover the entire locker room in the off-season. If you lose the trust of the whole team you're basically cooked. It's just a matter of if you get fired after this season or after another lost season.

It's cope from a believer. But if you drop the first and last 15 seconds or so he told a lot of truth in between he just can't allow himself to see it yet. It still has to be someone else's fault that Bryce is failing.

He's getting close. He's acknowledging that Bryce's footwork is complete trash, that he's not seeing coverage, that lots of balls are coming out late and not on time, and that he's still throwing up hospital balls. But since he's an admitted fan and believer in Bryce it still can't be Bryce's fault yet.

From the fan perspective, I agree. From a locker room perspective, you're gonna lose the locker room continuing to play a wholly ineffective QB. You lose your ability to hold anyone accountable and you're basically telling the locker room you're not even trying.

We all just realize that with Bryce the window for error is so small. Every missed opportunity for a big play is massive because there's only gonna be a couple a game.

Next year would be the end of his rookie contract minus picking up his 5th year option.

If he keeps looking like trash, we should try to trade him for anything we can get and when no one bites just cut him. $12M is too much for a backup QB with no future.

This. Honestly Bryce handcuffs and offense. Defenses are just playing bland, vanilla concepts against us because they can. They don't feel pressured to force anything. Just focus on filling gaps to stop the run and play tight coverage because you're not worried about the field being stretched and let Bryce make mistakes. I've said it over and over but Bryce basically turns the entire field into the redzone because we can't threaten the defense vertically.

There's a reason why proven QBs - even mid-level ones - get PAID. NFL QBs are hard to find and if you have one you can compete. If you don't you can't. It's pretty much that simple.

Peruse through this and it'll start making sense. Evidently this guy is dyed in the wool Bryce stan. It's a hilarious scroll. https://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40FantasyBandits bryce&t=aAeFPOsbV2dSTDCZXJeshQ&s=09

Recruiters? This isn't college. Not sure we could win there either though to be fair.

With a noodle arm. That part is every bit as limiting as his physical size, hell maybe even more so.

I'm saying Bryce sucks.

Why would he? What has Bryce done on the field to gain trust? Even if he did a great job in the off-season and through camp he has now gone out there on the field in a game that matters and looked like absolute dog poo. Again. That has happened over and over again during his brief career. How can you have trust in a guy that does that? Ultimately trust has to be earned and I can't see what Bryce has done on the field in games that matter to earn it.

To me a "drop" is a perfectly thrown ball to an open receiver, not a contested catch, not a ball that could've been caught with a Herculean effort, etc. There's a difference between a "drop" and a ball that should've been caught and a ball that maybe could've been caught. Not even Bryce's mom would've watched that game and counted 10 drops. That's just an absurd argument to make.

The guy was a #1 overall pick that we traded a fortune to get. When you make that move you realize it's going to create other roster holes and you're betting that this guy is going to carry the team through those holes. That's the bet you're making to make that move. Then you still have people complaining that we don't have a roster of all pros everywhere else to carry the guy. Just stop. We made a terrible bet and we lost the house on it. It is what it is.

Simply running to the first down marker instead of throwing it to a waiting Jags defender on his first INT. Not terribly under throwing the deep ball to Renfrow that should've been a walk in TD. Not sailing the ball over Renfrow's head on the sideline that would've been a big play with a decent throw and another possible TD with a good throw. Throwing the ball to an open Sanders in the endzone instead of sailing it 20 feet over everyone's head leading to a turnover on downs. There were plays to be made and Bryce simply didn't make them. Kinda the main story of his entire career.

Good luck convincing the handful of remaining Bryce excuse factories of that.

Nobody would care about this if he was playing well. I think the clips that sum up Bryce the best are the litany of clips that show him playing like dog poo. That's all I really care about Watch the jumbotron looking like a middle schooler all you want as long as you deliver when it's go time.

If we just want to look at the simplest of passes, those thrown five air yards or less, Young completed just 56% of attempts (#29) with a 13% success rate (#29), -0.54 EPA per attempt, and a mere 2.8 yards per attempt (#27). Bryce isn't "fine" at any aspect of NFL QBing.

No, it wasn't solely his fault. It's just that his decision and execution ultimately ensured the failure. He gave us no opportunity to succeed. You can't sling the ball through the endzone in that situation. You have to put a ball into the field of play and hope to get lucky... or just throw it to the open TE. That would be the preferable solution but we're talking about Bryce Young here so just give me a jumpball in the endzone. Anything is better than slinging it through the endzone. Hell, even if you get sacked maybe you fumble and keep the ball alive.