LinvilleGorge

Evidently he was banging his assistant something happened that made the assistant go to the university and lay it all put there, they fire him as a result, and then he basically went crazy probably anticipating his life completely unraveling. Wild. Chasing that strange will make some guys do some outlandish poo. Keep it between the lines fellas. Ain't worth it.

Crazy story

The hits add up. I know he lobbied for Higgins but the Bengals really needed to let Higgins walk or trade him. With Burrow making franchise QB money and two elite paid WRs they're really hamstrung and their OL has been trash his entire career. They needed to sit him down and lay it out to him that they couldn't pay Higgins and here's the plan going forward to put an OL in front of you.

BYU? Hell, they have at least as strong of an argument as ND for being snubbed from the playoffs. Why didn't they take their ball and go stomping home? What are they doing playing?

No, I'm saying it doesn't help the ACC and their rep having their largely lower to mid-tier teams getting their asses beat by ND on national TV. The only other major conference their current deal may have made sense for was the Big 12 and that commissioner has basically been the only guy in a position of relevance who had had the balls to basically tell ND to fug off so I don't see that happening. The ACC holds the upper hand here if they're just willing to play their cards instead of panicking and folding every time ND bluffs.

I think the Big 10 would tell them to fug off. I don't think they'd bend over and take it like the ACC has. Same with the SEC. The ACC is largely willing to deal with it because they're basically just barely hanging on as a major conference in football. But ND beating their largely lower level teams on national TV isn't helping their reputation.

Well, until he got stabbed by a 69 year old man defending himself from being assaulted. Now he's the butt fumbler who was nearly killed by a 69 year old man while being a drunken asshole. Just when you think your legacy has hit rock bottom... LOL

Yep. The Golden Calf of Bristol, Kaepernick, late career Cam, Shedeur's draft slide... they all come down to the reality that teams don't want a distraction out of a guy they see as a likely a backup QB. And instead of the media acknowledging their major role in that situation, they just double down and make it worse and confirm teams' suspicions that yeah... not worth it.

I think it basically came down to the NFL seriously doubting his ability to be a starting NFL QB and not wanting to bring on all the outside noise that he'd bring for a backup. Backup QBs are expected to be out of sight and out of mind. That doesn't exactly fit the wheelhouse of Shedeur and the Sanders clan, not to mention all the media clamoring about it. Then when he just blew off the entire pre-draft process (which he essentially flat out admitted to) I think he probably dropped completely off a lot of draft boards.

I think the problem is that the ceiling is "consistently mediocre" with "occasionally good" and the one great performance.

I think we've seen Bryce's ceiling. It's basically his recent play. If the D is playing well and you can lean on the running game and just let him dink and dunk and pray he can hit one or two downfield throws you can win with Bryce. But your margin of error is extremely small and you're gonna need a turnover margin advantage to beat good teams with that formula.

You won't just admit that you tried to cherry pick stats to prove a point and got called out for it? C'mon man... I mean, that's literally exactly what you did. You argument boils down to "I think a thing and no measurable metrics will convince me otherwise" then you tried to use some metrics to demonstrate your point and just proved me right. LOL I get it, "lies, damn lies, and statistics". You can cherry pick numbers to argue just about anything you want... except when all the numbers are screaming the opposite.

I'm glad someone involved in the process here is manning up and saying the quiet stuff out loud. "I think Pete's [ND athletic director], his behavior has been egregious," Yormark said. "It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips, when they saved Notre Dame during COVID. ... The chair said that as Notre Dame and Miami got closer together, head-to-head would be a factor, OK?" https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/47261132/big-12-brett-yormark-calls-notre-dame-pete-bevacqua Just more absolute cuck bullshit from the ACC though. You need another conference commissioner to step in and say what you should be saying while you continue to kowtow to ND and create excuses for them like a battered spouse? GTFOH... with the "oh he loves me, he won't do it again" ass bullshit while you're sitting there with a black eye and a lump upside your head while he's strutting around saying "yeah, she learned her lesson this time she won't be trying me again like that". The quicker this ends in an divorce the better off the kids will be for it.

I'll give you Nine, Geno, Tua, and Penix. Flacco was a guy playing due to injury, not a planned starter. I honestly think Bryce would probably only be playing better than Nine and Penix if you inserted him onto those respective rosters though.

Name me 9-14 guys who went into the season as planned starters that you'd say Bryce is clearly better than.

He's pretty close to the bottom of actual starters. Not backups playing due to injury but guys tabbed as teams as "this is our starting QB". There's not many of those guys you can make a compelling argument that Bryce is demonstrably better than that guy.

I'm pretty sure Shedeur is gonna be a flash in the pan but I'm also pretty sure that if he continues to play decently that he's not gonna be avaliable anyway. And if he is made available yeah, it could be the Browns doing Browns things again but it would be a pretty big red flag. Organizations just don't part with QBs who have shown much of anything after only a rookie season. You're talking about a potential valuable asset on a bottom of the barrel contract. The only way they'd consider moving hin if he continues to show much is if they think they're absolutely fleecing the other team.

I didn't pick up anything odd. If anything it's comforting that he's not pounding his chest acting like we've arrived because we finally have some meaningful games in December.

I think higher potential ceiling is pretty much confirmed.

Sigh... go back and read the post I quoted and then honestly try to tell me you weren't cherry picking metrics to try to make your point. Then you pick two games (with a combined 14 passing attempts in them) out of 20 total games (with a combined 631 passing attempts in the other 18 games) to further demonstrate you aren't cherry picking? I mean... I guess I should thank you for taking the time to demonstrate my point. LOL

That's why it's important not to cherry pick specific metrics which is what you're doing here to try to make your argument that stats don't matter. But when a guy is superior across the board... I mean, you're left with a real uphill battle to make a compelling argument with concrete data to back it up. You're basically left with trying to make the argument that despite this guy performing worse in practically every measurable metric of QB play, I think he's actually a better player. That's a tough case to make.

I'm not saying they tell the whole story, but when a guy is measurably better at everything it seems logical to conclude that... well, he's better. It's pretty rare to compare two players where one is measurably better across the board and try to argue that the lesser performer is actually the better player. You'd expect to be able to find something to hang your hat on in the numbers.

I mean, without some sort of concrete metrics you're basically just left with a pure opinion argument. I would expect a better player to be metrically superior at something. When one guy is measurably superior across the board it's speaking pretty loudly.