LinvilleGorge

Guys being as good as they're ever gonna be on day one of their rookie seasons is quite a trend for a lot of Panthers draft picks. Our drafting has sucked, but so has our talent development.

I just don't think Chambliss is a big factor in the draft one way or the other. There's a reason why he sued to get another year of NCAA eligibility. He can make more playing college ball than he can in the NFL. Just one of those fuys who is a really good college QB but doesn't project as a likely NFL starter and system fits might limit his value as a backup. Most teams are looking for a backup QB that's plug and play in their system. Sure, you might dial back the scope of the offense with the backup but you don't want to have to fundamentally change your offensive approach if the backup comes in.

Playing around with mock draft simulator this is probably my favorite one yet All the super tantalizing potentials were off the board at 19. Proctor was there but I really question if he can hold up at OT in the NFL at his size. I think speed rushers might put him in a blender. I was definitely willing to move down to pickup more capital. There's an obvious focus on the trenches in this draft. If you can own the LOS you can win a lot of games. Hell, the Seahawks just won a SB doing just that. Iheanachor oozes potential. He has all the physical tools to end up being the beat OT in this class but he's pretty raw having not been playing football long. Well worth it with the first pick in the 2nd. Christen Miller is listed as a DT here but he'd play DE in our defense. Not a lot of people are talking about it focusing on LB instead but our DEs suck too. Lawson should be a day one starter at MLB. His NFL ceiling might be more good than great but that's fine. He's smart, he's capable, and he was the QB in that Bama defense. That's what we need. If you want to run a 3-4 defense, you need a dog at NT. We don't have one. Orange can be that. He's not gonna pile up stats on his own but that's not the point of a NT. The point of a NT is to make everyone else's job easier. Slaughter is a potential starting center. Maybe not as a rookie but he could potentially be the long-term answer. I'm never going to give up on my dream of the Panthers having a true sideline to sideline ball hawking FS. Safety wasn't high on my list but Bud Clark was too tempting to pass up. At the very least he's a guy who should earn a role on 3rd and long obvious passing down type situations. Kevin Coleman is exactly the type of slot WR type we need working the underneath and middle with T-Mac and Coker on the outside. TJ Hall is just a dog and he's experienced playing outside and at nickel. He can cover and he's not afraid to step up against the run. He should be able to earn a roster spot as he hopefully develops as an NFL player and has the tools and mental makeup to be a core STer in the meantime. Nwaiwu is another development type pick with the advantage of having experience playing both LG and RG in college. At this point in the draft you're looking at guys projected as career backups and the more versatile you are as a backup the more roster value you have. I packaged two late rounders together to move up to secure Allar who has all the physical tools you want in a QB and has largely been forgotten since he missed a lot of games down the stretch this year. If he didn't he'd likely be a mid-round pick. He might still end up being a mid-round pick. If I could get him as a developmental guy in the 6th I'm doing that all day.

Yeah, and if we ever eventually decide to move on from Bryce at least the table should be set nicely for the next guy. Making life easier for your QB is never a bad plan.

Getting bumped down the draft order is a legit argument. I just don't think we would've passed up T-Mac of he was there because outside WR would have still been a big need and we were fully committed to trying to build around Bryce. As you should be when you go all in to trade up to #1 overall to draft a QB.

Most of the fanbase has been talking about Moton at LT pretty much ever since we drafted him. Pretty clear that's just not something the Panthers are going to entertain for whatever reason and at this point after playing exclusively RT for so long I'm sure it wouldn't be the plug and play switch that fans envision. Everything you've been doing for your entire NFL career now gets reversed.

I think we would. They're completely different players.

There's always gonna be misses in the draft even if you're an overall good drafting team. We'd be a whole lot worse off without finding Coker as a UDFA.

A big win in Pitt? Pitt is 9-17 (2-11 in the ACC). They're fuging terrible. It's just that truly fuging terrible teams are the only teams we can even compete with right now without Wilson and Veesaar. Is the rest of the roster really THAT bad? No, they're not. He didn't let Tyler Nickel and Cade Tyson off the bench and they're scoring 15ppg and 20ppg elsewhere this year. Isaiah Denis who is currently glued to the bench will probably do the same next year. Cadeau who we ran out of town is the starting PG for the #1 team in the country. The issue has never been the talent. The issue has been coaching.

He would've been if not for that fluke run to the title game his first year. Ever since we've basically just won a big game or two and/or landed a big recruit for the next year that keeps buying him another year of grace. Minus a Sweet 16 run, I'm ready to rip off the bandaid.

He's the basketball version of John Bunting. He somehow wins a huge game every year that buys him another year of grace. But UNC has to wake up and realize that UNC basketball isn't UNC football... but Hubert is trying his best to accomplish that.

Hubert is lost without elite talent to lean on. This team has enough talent to compete with this team even without Wilson and Veesaar, but it doesn't have enough coaching to compete with this team without Wilson and Veesaar. That's just the sad truth.

Second game since the duke game that I'm imploring for Hubert to just play the walk instead. This is pathetic.

1-15 from three. An actual coach would tell them to stop jacking them up.

Any remaining games that both Wilson and Veesaar are going to miss, I'd advocate for just forfeiting.

#1 PG and top 10 overall recruit just committed to UNC.

Ryan Day is basically Dabo Swinney fully embracing the new era of college football and the portal. He's a recruiter and program builder, not a great Xs and Os type of coach. The way this new era is shaping up, I honestly think it may evolve more toward the Xs and Os type coaches and away from the stereotypical cheereleading motivating type of coach that has come to largely define the college game. These top programs can't pile up 4 and 5 star recruits throughout their depth charts anymore. If that guy isn't starting he's gonna take a bag elsewhere and transfer. It used to be that very top teams were just head and shoulders better than everyone else and a lot of that had to do with their depth. Their twos were better than most teams' ones.

Not sure how high we're gonna be on Fano to be honest. We seem like we prefer bigger mauler types of OL. Fano is the opposite of that.

Yeah, at least we ended up getting Coker as a UDFA. Sucks that XL is likely a bust but finding Coker as a UDFA takes some of the sting off of it.

Which leads me back to saying we should've fuging drafted McConkey. LOL

If we move XL in a WR for WR trade I'd prefer to trade him for more of a classic slot WR. That's what this WR corps lacks. I like T-Mac and Coker on the outside. Now we need that shifty guy who can get open immediately and create separation in short areas.

Yeah, I think getting ousted from the Panthers reignited that blood and guts fire in Smitty. He was done here. Those two alphas just couldn't coexist at that stage in their careers with Smitty knowing he was barely hanging on as a star and Cam knowing he was just emerging. Those energies just weren't compatible.

Nice, he's transferring to UNC.

LOL

Not blaming him for everything, just "singling him out". I love it when morons call other people morons. LOL