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Not completely accurate. I'm sure Roy is lobbying for him and Larry Brown has spoke put in support too. But Hansbrough has made comments pretty critical and hinting at a need for change. Joel Berry has gone a step further and said the standard has not been met. Scott Williams who was a teammate of Hubert's at Carolina has gone all the way and said it's time for a change at head coach.

It's so obvious that the split is imminent. At this point it's gonna be a shock to everyone if he's back next year.

Same.

Deebo is still living off the reputation of that one stellar season he had, but that was five years ago and it's a huge outlier of an anomaly in his career.

That's his buyout. What's likely going to happen is that he resigns and we pay him out his buyout anyway which was honestly always the best path forward.

We literally have a national championship within the last 10 years and another championship appearance. In this period of irrelevance (I'm guessing "relative" was supposed to read "relevant") we've won 10% of the championships and appeared in 20% of the championship games.

Yeah, they let these rumors grow way too much legs to reel it back in now. If a split wasn't imminent they needed to respond immediately with a strong message of support for Hubert. Because you can bet our current players and next years recruits are already hearing from other programs. This doesn't need to be drawn out. We need to get it resolved ASAP or the new guy is really gonna be behind the eight ball by the time he signs his contract.

Loved Stack as a player (loved Hubert as a player too) But Stack went 70-92 at Vanderbilt and they've gone 20-13 and 27-9 in their two seasons since firing him. So with all due respect to a player I love, no fuging thanks.

Gonna be interesting to watch. All reporting indicates he's gonna be out. From what I'm hearing he's out. The interesting part will be what happens next. The job has been staying within the "family" since Dean retired. But there's no one within the family that makes any sense at all right now. They'll have to go outside the family to hire a coach that's likely to be successful and tension between the school and the basketball family is already high right now with this plot to move the arena to Carolina North because the folks within the basketball family want it to stay at the Dean Dome and they feel misled because they feel like there was never any real consideration of revamping the Dean Dome and this whole evaluation process was just meant to make it look like that was being considered. The best outcome here IMO is that we hire a great coach from outside the family and we revamp the Dean Dome as an olive branch to the family. But the powers that be REALLY want a new arena at Carolina North.

Nope. It's bizarre to me how viscerally some people react to the notion that some people have actual principles.

Nah, not me. That's why I said I'd be done with the Panthers if they hired Sean Payton and I meant it.

That's how the sold most of the donors on it. More money driven from football would equal more money for basketball but then they had to commit to guaranteed spend on football in Belichick's contract so if football isn't driving additional revenue then in essence it's just stealing from basketball.

The idiotic huge investment into Belichick and the commitments he contractually forced to be spent on the football program is a big problem right now. If he was delivering promise on the field it would pay off but Belichick isn't holding up his end of the bargain in that regard. I have heard from a big Rams Club booster (a whole row of third row tickets at the Deam Dome) that Hubert is gone. With the Belichick disaster and basketball floundering the money is gon a dry up if they don't do something big and it's cheaper to do it with Hubert right now than Belichick, plus most of the donors are still just way more into basketball based on the history of Carolina athletics.

I'd just give him his full buyout and let him resign. Seems the best way out. Hubert gets his money and we avoid having to fire a DES player and Roy's long time lead assistant. Just tell him, listen you're out one way or the other. We're paying you out one way or the other. Are you gonna make us fire you or would you save us both some face and resign? Your call.

That would be a Tinderbox thread.