strato

You hang in there like a pit bill, I'll give you that. I think you may learn who the real number one in that room is, tomorrow.

Yeah. Agree. I am really feeling good about the OL. So far corbett, no problem. Icky can be the problem child but it is a lot easier to work around one guy than 3. And he may turn the corner, who knows.

The only thing I can recall recently is Baker's start in 2022. I think he pulled it together in the second half a little but the next game was not good either. As I recall.

He needs a time out. He needs to Not dig his hole even deeper. It has sure looked like that would be more likely than not. Also, his play is causing division in the locker room.

I think there is some simpatico going on with that agency and ESPN to be honest. There is a concerted narrative push.

Because he is a disaster. He was getting no better at all. Hurting the team. But the FoMO is real, they want to try and fix him a little and see if he responds with better play, I guess.

If people want to put it all on the Panthers, let them if the price is right. If that is the plan.

Let me start asking YOU some stuff. You can answer and you can defend YOUR position. Bring it. What fuging difference does what an analyst says matter when the guy shows you who he is? Have you watched the 2024 film analysis from numerous independent sources and not ESPN? What did they have to say? The stuff is all over the place here . Warner. Chase Daniels. And what might it tell you that the dude that does QB school, did not even bother to make one for Young? But check his week one edition.

Well, give up or not, you paid big time for 4 years of control and the 5th year option. If you were certain he just was a drag on things you may not care about that but that isn't nothing. For one thing that should really attractive to a suitor, if there are any. And there are always suitors for QBs. The play is to have that Buffalo drive in an official game, even if it is just garbage time. I don't see non garbage time defenses giving him anything but if somehow you could get a matchup where he could look good then you stick him in there and hope he can look like more than he is. Maybe you can get a much better return. If they really think he is an NFL starter then no way they should trade him. I actually trust the staff to make that call.

You know what narratives. I shouldn't have to help you with this. They have been going on for a year about it isn't Bryce's fault. They use the same WR, OL bad coaching stuff. Never his fault always something else. poo is is all over this board and the media. Look I will agree with you when Bryce Young goes somewhere, wins the starting job, and proves it was never his fault.

Point is people were hammering people for saying truth, because it ruined your safe optimistic space. Whatever.

'Too much' What's that? 'Too much change from Sunday to Monday' is an opinion my friend. An employee of some type stating their interpretation of how the thing went down. It might be right but it is a fact, that that is an opinion. Do you think she was getting her Hunger Games plot from players or people in the building, that are on the Panthers staff? I think her contacts are media types, people that work in the building and hear stuff. Could it have been a couple of fired coaches and cut players for that Hunger Games? Yeah could be that too. But she got her intel from people on the inside somewhere, and my guess is that is where it is coming from this time, in the building, without someone specifically saying what their role is. Could even be Gantt, easily.

Darnold didn't ball out in SF which was his next stop. 2 games now. I think he is gonna be fine though. Mayfield, well he went to work with Canales, and did well. The same guy that just stored Bryce in his garage with the golf clubs and fishing rods.

I just read that article. In regards to Tepper being the instigator, the article just says "even people on the Panthers". Doesn't say players. And what they said was "Too much change from Sunday to Monday". It's no more than an opinion of an employee. We don't know what they know. Though, as far as I am concerned whoever made the call to pull him, it is the right call. Wish they could have been that smart a year and a half ago.

Whatever we get, it will be more than he will be worth as an NFL QB. I'd like to get another QB.

And why expose him further if they do want to deal him.

I have some posts in here, but had to re register after this thread, not sure when. Each post by stratocatter is me. I had different devices and somehow couldn't get a password reset. It is pretty easy to figure out. stratocatter to strato. I doubt I could tell you the better pick or who wouldn't make it in the NFL between two really similar NFL prototype prospects, because it is not easy. I didn't know Stroud would be THAT good that quick. Bryce, that was easy. College vs NFL is a real thing. He is not NFL. That's enough to judge him on, you can stop there and save yourself some time because nothing else matters if you don't have that athleticism.

I won’t say I loved it, for the reason that much of it seemed tailored to Bryce. But I understood it. I certainly had no issue with drafting looking ahead vs immediate gratification. Lack of patience has really been a problem. Also I just never was able to believe that Bryce was going to end up being worth all that plus they were trashing the defense to get it done.

Someone didn’t. Frank knew. He knew when Young came to Charlotte and he saw it without any spin, one on one. That is when Frank started with the hangdog look.

Yeah that is all I meant. With the added it will suck hard again. He is coming back in if that happens. He is being paid a king’s ransom to play quarterback for the Panthers. I guess people will blame Dalton getting hurt on Tepper somehow. And anybody that has read my posts will know I am no fan of Tepper.

I definitely agree with your scenario about Reich. I think it finally got to the point he wouldn’t play along. Because he knew. Matter of fact, Reich got the best out of him, such as it was.

What do you think happens? Here comes the suck.

This is ridiculous from the stand point the it is commonly done all the time. Tell me you never heard any other coach or owner or GM say this about a player or a manager and the next or a few days later they fire them. Release them. Also, you seem to believe that Canales personally told Bryce after the game that he was still the starter. 1st I would doubt that. Second what evidence? And not to your post but the general thing with Tepper. Is it possible they all agree? I can see Tepper making the call and Canales going Thank You. Not the first time I said this but it fits: there is plenty of Bad Tepper to hold against him, a mountain, that it is unnecessary to just create reasons to be pissed off at him.

I have banged hard on the idea that there is no way a guy who played QB for years and stayed in as a coach, would sign off on an outlier with those mechanics. I just will not believe it.

Yeah. That is the biggest thing that says I can’t or won’t. Either one, you can’t or won’t have that in a player.